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what size injectors for 331?

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89hatchlx

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need help on incetor size.. DSS 331 with trickflow twisted wedge heads, trickflow track heat upper and lower, Trickflow stage 2 cam.. any idea on what size injector i should use? Plan on spraying the car a little on down the road.. any help greatly appreciated. Thanks...
 
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42lb
 

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36-42 if you are going to boost 60
 

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I had 30lb's in mine before the blower, with a 255 pump and it was fine
 
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30s will be fine, I have a dss 331 with afr heads, f cam ,trick flow track heat intake and spray a 150 shot and have been doing it for years on 30s
 

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Injector HP ratings: divide flow rating by .5 and multiply the result by the number of injectors. This uses a 100% duty cycle. These ratings are for naturally aspirated engines.

Example:
19/.5 = 38, 38 x 8 = 304 HP
24/.5 = 48, 48 x 8 = 384 HP
30/.5 = 60, 60 x 8 = 480 HP

The preferred duty cycle is about 85% maximum, so for a safety factor multiply the final figure times .85.

304 HP x .85 = 258 HP
385 HP x .85 = 326 HP
480 HP x .85 = 408 HP

Remember that the above ratings are at 39 PSI. Increasing the pressure will effectively increase the flow rating. Example: a 19 lb injector will flow 24 lbs at 63 PSI, and a 24 lb injector will flow 30 lbs at 63 PSI.

See Automotive Performance Software / Interactive JavaScripts Calculators to get the calculators used in these examples.

Here's the duty cycle explanation. Duty cycle is how much of the time the intake is open the injectors are turned on. The 85% figure means that for 85% of the time the intake valve is open, the injectors are spraying. The idea is that you want some percentage of the duty cycle left over so that you have some room to grow the process.

If you are at 100% and you need more fuel, all you can do is turn up the fuel pressure. That means the whole fuel curve from idle to WOT is affected. Maybe you are already too rich at idle, and turning up the fuel pressure makes it worse. If you had some injector duty cycle left to play with, a custom tune could use that where it is needed. That would not over richen the whole range from idle to WOT.




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i run 42 pounders with the same h/c/i as you but on a 347 stroker. plugs looked great and didnt smell rich at stock pressure of 39 psi. just throwing in what i run and not arguing the fact of prper injector size.
 

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Go with 42's, will give you room to grow and its still not overkill
 
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