What Will Happen To All The Old Efi Performance Parts?

karthief said:

I don't think you need a 1k holley system to run a stroker engine with hci.
Jmo
Carbs and 4 barrel intakes and flat tappet cams are still around.

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So are "flat" cams.

There are lots of new EFI systems on the market. I keep waiting on the PMS to fall through the floor, it's getting to be old technology, but prices are still steady. there are deals out there, but $1100 new and still $5-600 used.

Joe

RangerJoe said:

There are lots of new EFI systems on the market. I keep waiting on the PMS to fall through the floor, it's getting to be old technology, but prices are still steady. there are deals out there, but $1100 new and still $5-600 used.

Joe

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You can find a series 4 pms used for $500 and it's worth it but not worth $1100 new. A done right holley or pro m efi system is $2000-$2500 new and tough for the average joe to afford.

if you add up the prices of new old school vs new new school EFI parts, it is a good queston.

Old school- ballparking this one
Intake- $500
Injectors $300
THrottle Body- $300
MAF- $300
Chip/Tune - $400-$600
Fuel pump $100
Total $ 2000 or so
with a MS/PMS etc add another couple of hundred to that

If you buy used parts as most of us who are in the real world do cut the price of the parts in 1/2 so you are looking at around $1000 and then the Chip/Tune/Piggyback system-- call it maybe $1500

And this has worked for going on 30 years.

Price that vs a new stand alone Holley, PRO M, Edelbrock or other system and its about $1000 difference. That's a lot for most guys. I suspect as the prices come down on these systems more people will adopt them, but that in turn will also drive down the price of used parts as there will be more for sale.. Hell.I am sure everyone has scored some good parts at killer prices. For example I paid

• $150 for a ported explorer intake, 70MM TB and 19lb injectors
  
• $950 for AFR heads, Ford rockers and hardened pushrods
• $200 for a Pro M MAF and 30# injectors

I'd love to throw a stand alone system onand ditch the 30 year old harnesses and technology, but not at this price point.

Grn92LX said:

You can find a series 4 pms used for $500 and it's worth it but not worth $1100 new. A done right holley or pro m efi system is $2000-$2500 new and tough for the average joe to afford.

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Yeah, but data logging cost you extra, add in the wide band and the need to keep a MAF, and it just hurts the bang for the buck.

Joe

Noobz347 said:

It's already happening. The answer is that lots of people will over-build their fuel systems, get the tuner dialed in then finally, redo a good portion of that fuel system because they're boiling gas during the warmer months.

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That's the same thing I have been saying for quite some time now. Too much circulating fuel pick up heat and when that heated fuel returns to the tank it starts to vaporize and expand. The expansion of that vaporized fuel tries to pressurize the tank. Since most Mustangs have had the carbon canister ripped out long ago by people who didn't know what it was for, the vapors get vented out into open air. Fuel mileage drops because gasoline isn't being used to run the engine, it is just like a big gas leak that drains your tank and your wallet.

My MS cost about 900 + 200 for WB...but subtract the 300 for a MAF, 80 bucks for BAP, 300 for chip, and the piece of mind being able to see actual sensor data . So....my MS cost me 420....that 420 will be saved in diag and headache time.

Time is money ya know !

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