What would YOU do in my situation?

[mootang]

go with the legit legal route and wait it out! if at anytime he treatens or inflicts damage to you or your property and you feel you or anyone else is in danger of severe injurie or death, then use as much force as you feel neccessary! get the restraining order report everything that he says or does that is threatoning! as far as the gun, that could really get you in trouble since your not old enough for a hand gun. just remember you are responsible for every bullet that comes out of that thing! Oh yeah if you are going to carry it atleast get trained up on shooting it!!

 

[wytstang]

Get the restaining order on him, if he violates it shoot to kill. It's on record he's been threating your life and been a PITA, in court you'd win self defense.

 

[94venom5.0]

here in ga, they step foot on your property you can cap that fool!...if he steps foot on your property shoot him..you bought a gun for self defense right? whats the point of buying the gun if he is not worth the trouble? but then you have druggy dad comin for you so you will have to a) buy lots of ammo or b) a much bigger gun

 

[gustang818]

Thats why you only pull if if you feel your life is in danger....

I think MysteryMachine is right about that but it needs to go a little further. Your belief that you are about to suffer harm has to be reasonable:

...if a man reasonably believes that he is in immediate danger of death or grievous bodily harm from his assailant he may stand his ground and that if he kills him he has not succeeded the bounds of lawful self defence. That has been the decision of this Court. Beard v. United States, 158 U. S. 550, 559, 15 Sup. Ct. 962, 39 L. Ed. 1086. Detached reflection cannot be demanded in the presence of an uplifted knife.

Brown v US, 256 US 335 (1921)

Reasonableness varies by state. What's reasonable for Texas may not be reasonable in Ohio. Brown is a case involving Texas law where the court held reasonableness does not involve a duty to retreat (a man's home is his castle). Some courts hold you must retreat if it is a viable option before exercising deadly force.

...and shoot to kill because again if you don't they can come back on you and sue you for shooting them.

I will respectfully disagree with MM on this point.

Unfortunately in our system of jurisprudence anyone can sue anybody for any reason, even if it's a wrong reason or it does not appear "just." Witness all the nuisance lawsuits that are settled for the "cost of defense." Even dead people sue or at least their estates do in wrongful death actions--like the estates of Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson suing OJ. Bad guys sue and win if the reason for shooting or hurting them is not reasonable. While not a shooting, there was a ridiculous case a couple years ago where a burglar was hurt inside the building he was robbing. He successfully sued the owner despite the fact the burglar was committing a crime at the time of his injury and subsequently went to jail for it. Criminals and the dead can sue.

All in all, I'd err on the side of caution and make sure I was around to argue the "reasonableness" of my actions.

If I was in nickm347's position I would follow up on the police report on the arson-talk to the detective assigned, call the prosecuting attorney to see if charges will be filed, write follow-up letters indicating this kid is mentally deranged and has threatened you, get the protection orders, make police reports when the s***bag violates it, follow through with pressing charges, etc. If all that doesn't work and something bad happened to the crazy person within the curtilege my home, I could show I tried to work within the confines of the law. I would tell law enforcement that he had threatened me in the past, that I was in fear of great bodily harm, there was no retreat available and then call my lawyer.

 

[WhiteDevil]

YEah these guys are right. Take the high road, and keep the police involved and up to date on everything this nut job is doing. Sooner or later he will get his. Dont do something dumb and get YOUR ass in jail and not his.

 

[MysteryMachine]

OK just a thought here. Say somethign goes down and you are forced to pull a gun and shoot and you don't kell him. Whats that gonna do? PISS HIM OFF EVEN MORE at least if you kill him you don't have to worry about him anymore and yo can go on with your life without fear of him hurting you or your gf.


Now before anybody starts on me I'm not saying go kill the guy. Read my first post I'm the one that brought up the restraining order. Like I also said i went to the police about the one guy just cause of his age if anything happens where I beat his ass. The older guy I didn't go to the cops about I have a right to carry a gun and protect myself and thast what I'm gonna do. I have told the gf however if he shows up at her work again call the cops and get an order on him. Told her she should have one now really but she don't like going to police she went to them about things before and they never helped so she thinks they never will I guess

 

[donkey_punch]

i'm with Clark sleep with his mom, or better yet donkey punch his mom.
give her the pink sock and don't forget to film it.

 

[gustang818]

I hear what MM is saying. There is a line that the MF had better not cross and I can respect your position on that. The point I was trying to make is to draw the line somewhere that you are on high ground. You are justified to protect yourself but please don't confuse the right to carry a gun with a right to use it. The restraining order and the paper trail of complaints to law enforcement (even if they do nothing about it) can serve to establish there was a problem and you dealt with it appropriately.

 

[Stangster5.0]

Kharma is a bitch,Burn his garage down! :Zip2:

Its been my experience that when this sorta thing happens,often enough the police wont get involved untill someone or something gets injured.Not there fault,its the law.If he has already made this attemt to damage your property,chances are he wont stop there.Ditch the gun,its not worth it.Even if this kid is being influenced by his peer chances are hes never gonna pull the trigger.Takes a lot more of a man than most think to take a life!I would get your neighbors involved if at all possible.Next time he starts doing his drive up and down the street crap,have them all come out and show him your not alone.This can go along way to deter a idiot.Next time you see him,dont say anything ,dont make any jestures towards him,jus stare at him without so much as blinking.Stare like your looking into his soul and planning something sinister.Sometimes you can put the fear of god in someone with just a look.keep a cool head on your shoulders,if something does go down,you dont want to freak out.All he is trying to do is wear you down,its what all moviestar toughguys do.Stop thinking about whats been done and start looking at what can happen,so as to stay one step ahead of him.If you let him get to you,then he has already won!Hopefully time will be his defeat and hell just grow up.

 

[Guero]

a) buy lots of ammo or b) a much bigger gun

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... B!B!B!B!B!B! lol

 

[8950HO]

Might want to find a safer place to store those cars.If the garage was set on fire once,it could be set on fire again and you can`t be there all the time to keep an eye on it.

 

[nickm347]

i know this thread is a little old, but i just wanted to say thanks for all your alls support and ideas....but i guess it doesnt matter anymore, she cheated on me with this guy....i suppose im also venting some more....just thought i would throw that in

 

[Blackened302]

sorry to hear, man, but at least you know she's a bitch now rather than when you're even more involved in the relationship.

 

[MysteryMachine]

ouch! now you can kill them both

 

[95Vert]

ouch! now you can kill them both

You crazy white boy!