whats it take to run with a BMW M3

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jtsblkstang

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this older guy around town has a 325is '92, but it has a euro '98 M3 engine. its very quick, he took me for a ride in it the other day. how far off am i from running with it? i have a stock '02 GT. having owned and tuned a 325is, i know that they are not slow cars, and having the euro version M3 engine makes it stupid quick. he was looking for a race, and i didnt, so we got to talking and it turned out under that old 325 hood he had a screaming m3 engine in it

how bad would i get spanked?

 

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How heavy is a '92 325?
The 98 M3 (well, the US one) is a little slower than a 99+ GT. More of a driver's race.

If the 325 is a bunch lighter than the 98 M3 body style he may have an edge.

I raced a 99 M3 (him 1 passenger, me with 3) from a highway roll at 60mph 3 times, we were even once, and each pulled once. If I didn't have the passengers I woulda won all 3. Stock.

From a dig, I'd destroy him.

 

Brisk281GT

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I would say it does depend on weight. A regular M3 (pre 2001) is a bit slower through the 1/4mi than a stock GT. Unless he has other mods or is a lot lighter, you should be able to take him now.

 

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becareful, euro M3's are quicker than US ones

 

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I raced an brand new M5 in my car on the freeway. He pulled on me pretty hard. However, I think from light to light it would be a different story. The ********** gave me thumbs down. He was a guy from this website too. ASS First meet I went to and they kinda pissed me off, a couple of the guys were really nice though.

 

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My friend had a 95 M3 in a stick, and he would beat me by about half a car. He would pull on me every time my automatic would shift and as I would catch back up my car would shift again.

 

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i raced a brand new M3 from a roll in my 02 auto and he pulled like 2 cars. then from a stop i had him till 60 and then he pulled like a car.

 

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Turbo92PGT said:

I raced an brand new M5 in my car on the freeway. He pulled on me pretty hard. However, I think from light to light it would be a different story. The ********** gave me thumbs down. He was a guy from this website too. ASS First meet I went to and they kinda pissed me off, a couple of the guys were really nice though.

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Too Slow said:

i raced a brand new M3 from a roll in my 02 auto and he pulled like 2 cars. then from a stop i had him till 60 and then he pulled like a car.

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new ones are much faster than the old US E36 M3's.

 

crazynorwegian

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One of my friends has a 95 euro m3 with catback, intake, and chip. He raced my friends 03 gt 5-speed with pullys, catback, and cai. They were about even till 40mph then the mustang started pulling. at about 60 the mustang was about 1 car length ahead. Although the m3 feels a lot faster when your in it.

 

quiksilver98

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It's a Drivers Race....maybe a little more advantage towards the BMW. Euro spec M motors have a little bit more horsepower than the US spec. Be safe

 

StangDriver5650

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I don't see how even a bolt on GT could pull on a new M3. They are rated low 13's and trap ~106. At least that's what all the stats say. ?

 

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1of3901SpringGT said:

My friend had a 95 M3 in a stick, and he would beat me by about half a car. He would pull on me every time my automatic would shift and as I would catch back up my car would shift again.

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get gears and then race again

 

JonJon

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StangDriver5650 said:

I don't see how even a bolt on GT could pull on a new M3. They are rated low 13's and trap ~106. At least that's what all the stats say. ?

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it's a 98 engine, NOT a new E46 M3 model...

 

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Any US previous generation M3 is rated 240 fwhp. The euro ones
of the same generation are 287fwhp 321 fwhp I believe. The current M3's are 333 fwhp. These current M cars lay down 275-285 wheels. If you want to mess with one of these you better have full bolt-ons. The earlier models are quick and can be a problem if you are stock and can't drive.
The big advantage that these cars have is that they hook, and the throttle response is second to none.

BTW the last year or two of the Z3M coupe and convertible are
315fwhp!!

 

JonJon

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Why is the Euro one so much more power?
M coupe is mean

 

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Anybody know the weights of these cars? Lets face it, these Mustangs we love so much are just about heavier than anything else we go up against.