Which timing chain to use?

[NoVaEaTeR]

ok here is my problem. i have an 87 302 roller engine i am going to put in my 68. it is going to be carburated, so i want to use my timing cover from my 289 so i can use the mech fuel pump. but with the 302's orig timing chain and the fp ecentric, the ecentric hits the timing cover. so i put the timing chain from my 289 on the new 302 and the ecentric has plenty of room but the chain rubs the block down by the crank timing gear. what do i do? i know someone has gone through this and has a p/n for a timing chain or something. any help will be great!

NE

 

[Rusty67]

If it rubs the block, wouldn't it rub the block regaurdless of what timing cover you use ? Maybe I'm a little confused as to what is going on ?

 

[NoVaEaTeR]

i want to know what timing CHAIN to use. i already know i want timing COVER to use, thats not the problem. anyone?

 

[Rusty67]

This should work:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FMS-M-6268-B302&autoview=sku

 

[NoVaEaTeR]

wow really? how did you know did you have the same problem?

 

[Rusty67]

Someone posted a similar problem before on the forums here and I seem to remember that using the Ford Motorsport timing chain set solved the problem. Don't go spending your money until someone else confirms what I've said, I might have remembered the wrong part. I'll be dealing with the same issue later in the summer. I've got an 87 HO motor I'm going to rebuild and slap into my 67 and I've actually already got that timing chain. If I had time I'd go mock it up to check for you but I wont be able to work on cars for another 2 weeks. I've got too many projects due and finals are the week after this comming.

 

[NoVaEaTeR]

ya can anyone else confirm this? because for the same $80 i can run an electric fp and get rid of this whole problem.

 

[D.Hearne]

This should work:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FMS-M-6268-B302&autoview=sku

Rusty, If you're using this set and have not replaced the cam retainer plate with the steel one that's required with it, you need to do so immediately. I bought that same set and after having it in two separate engines, and it wearing thru two retainer plates, I finally decided something wasn't right. I went back and looked up the set in an old Ford Racing catalog and noticed the footnote about the cam retainer plate. Ordered the retainer from Summit and it got backordered twice. I went to the big three chian stores her in town and finally got a factory 5.0 roller set from O'Reilly's for less than twenty bucks. When I got home I cancelled the retainer from Summit that was $40 alone. This set has a steel cam gear and requires a steel cam retainer to match.

 

[Rusty67]

I've actually got the cam retainer plate required for this set. Thanks for lookin out for me and also for reminding me because I forgot to tell Nova about that.

 

[NoVaEaTeR]

so this chain will work or should i get a factory chain for this engine and just go for an electric fuel pump?

 

[D.Hearne]

I'd just try a stock double row, roller chain set. O'Reilly's had this for less than $20 here. If you want that Ford Racing steel geared set, I'll sell you the set I have cheap, but you'll need the steel cam retainer to go with it.

 

[Hack]

timing set choice

Is there any value to degreeing a cam? Or possibly I should ask what is the value? With a stock timing set there is no adjustment available.

 

[D.Hearne]

You can still advance or retard the cam with the stock set. You just need a degree wheel to do it with. As for the value in doing either, that's a trial and error deal that I don't have the time or patience for. I just run em straight up.

 

[rbohm]

degreeing a cam for a street engine is a good idea, if you have the time or temperment to do so. about the only thing you gain from degreeing a cam on a street engine is to avoid tolerance stack. otherwise you wont see any real change.