Who would win? Similar combo

LAZERREDGT · Jul 29, 2007

Ok a good friend of mine and I are having a friendly race at a local track this coming Wednesday. We are always talking smack about who beats who and such.
Last time we were out their I beat hiim 3 out of 3 times with my best being a 14.3 on street tires with auto tranny to his best of 15.4 with a manual tranny.

We traded transmissions since I wanted a 5 speed and he an auto, now the smack talk has begun again! What do you think? Here are mine and his mods.

Last time we raced we race he had 3:27gears since then he has changed to 4:10s

Oh and every time I had the best reaction times.

MINE:
GT40 heads
Typhoon intake
70mm TB
75mm MAF
CAI
1.7RR
Shortys
O/R H with Flowmaster
155 lph fuel pump
AFPR
Electric Fan
5speed tranny
4:10 gears
Street tires BFGoodrich 235/60/15
4cyl rear springs

His Notch
GT40p Heads
Typoon intake
70mm TB
75mm MAF
24lb injectors
190 lph fuel pump
AFPR w/thicker fuel rails
1.7 RR
electric fan
MSD A9L
Shiftlight
AOD w/2000 stall
4.10 gears
longtube headers
o/r H pipe w/flows
M/T indy profile street tires 28" tall
upper/lower control arms

Foxfan88 · Jul 29, 2007

they are pretty much the same car, up to the driver mostly

Mr. Rustypwnz · Jul 29, 2007

if he had a 5 speed, he would win, the gt40's compared to the gt40p's arent as good, they dont flow as well.

88mouse · Jul 29, 2007

slow95gt said:
if he had a 5 speed, he would win, the gt40's compared to the gt40p's arent as good, they dont flow as well.

im with you on that one.

foxmustangman · Jul 29, 2007

I hate it when people put shift lights on their automatics...

BigHairyMonkey · Jul 29, 2007

LAZERREDGT said:
Ok a good friend of mine and I are having a friendly race at a local track this coming Wednesday. We are always talking smack about who beats who and such.
Last time we were out their I beat hiim 3 out of 3 times with my best being a 14.3 on street tires with auto tranny to his best of 15.4 with a manual tranny.

We traded transmissions since I wanted a 5 speed and he an auto, now the smack talk has begun again! What do you think? Here are mine and his mods.

Last time we raced we race he had 3:27gears since then he has changed to 4:10s

Oh and every time I had the best reaction times.

MINE:
GT40 heads
Typhoon intake
70mm TB
75mm MAF
CAI
1.7RR
Shortys
O/R H with Flowmaster
155 lph fuel pump
AFPR
Electric Fan
5speed tranny
4:10 gears
Street tires BFGoodrich 235/60/15
4cyl rear springs

His Notch
GT40p Heads
Typoon intake
70mm TB
75mm MAF
24lb injectors
190 lph fuel pump
AFPR w/thicker fuel rails
1.7 RR
electric fan
MSD A9L
Shiftlight
AOD w/2000 stall
4.10 gears
longtube headers
o/r H pipe w/flows
M/T indy profile street tires 28" tall
upper/lower control arms

how do head & intake full bolt on foxes run 14s and 15s?

LAZERREDGT · Jul 30, 2007

BigHairyMonkey said:
how do head & intake full bolt on foxes run 14s and 15s?

In my case I am running street tires, I know if I had some sticky tires I would be doing atleast mid 13's. Depends alot on weather conditions too.

25thmustang · Jul 30, 2007

LAZERREDGT said:
In my case I am running street tires, I know if I had some sticky tires I would be doing atleast mid 13's. Depends alot on weather conditions too.

What mph, because my auto bolt on fox ran slower on a sticky tire, not enough gear/converter to get out of the hole. Also his 15.4 sounds like 100% driver error, so he should go faster with the auto. I think you will still win, your car should run in the 13s with the 5-speed as long as you can drive it well.

blackened88lx · Jul 30, 2007

foxmustangman said:
I hate it when people put shift lights on their automatics...

I hate it when people list shiftlights as mods.

BigHairyMonkey said:
how do head & intake full bolt on foxes run 14s and 15s?

That's what I want to know.

LAZERREDGT · Jul 30, 2007

25thmustang said:
What mph, because my auto bolt on fox ran slower on a sticky tire, not enough gear/converter to get out of the hole. Also his 15.4 sounds like 100% driver error, so he should go faster with the auto. I think you will still win, your car should run in the 13s with the 5-speed as long as you can drive it well.

I mentioned that I could get atleast get a mid 13 now that I have a 5 speed. And yes I believe it was driver error the first time we raced, I could'nt understand why he would have those times.

LAZERREDGT · Jul 30, 2007

blackened88lx said:
I hate it when people list shiftlights as mods.

That's what I want to know.

Just trying to list any little thing that would give him the edge, I don't really think he needs it unless he does the AOD shuffle.
Running a 14.3 @99mph on a street tire with poor traction IMO is not that bad, I know my car has a little more to give.

25thmustang · Jul 30, 2007

LAZERREDGT said:
I mentioned that I could get atleast get a mid 13 now that I have a 5 speed. And yes I believe it was driver error the first time we raced, I could'nt understand why he would have those times.

When I reread what you said, you never mention the 5-speed, just state that you would have been mid 13s with sticky tires... With the 5-speed you should, I knocked an easy 3-4 tenths off my AOD times with just a T5 swap, and no standard driving experience.

Mustank · Jul 31, 2007

His engine is breathing better than yours, but the AOD is going to hurt him big time. He must really suck at shifting if he was willing to trade his T5 for an AOD. As long as you can drive, you'll probably win.

Wow - with those times, I thought maybe you were racing on top of a mountain somewhere....but in Texas? A bone stock 5 speed can run those times. Was it 120 degrees when you raced?

LAZERREDGT · Jul 31, 2007

Yeah I think he did'nt drive the Stang to its potential, so now I will make good use of the 5 speed. Weather was acutally in the mid 90's last time we were out there, my guess is I was'nt pushing my car hard enough and my 2.2 60ft times sucked! lol

ninety15.0 · Jul 31, 2007

Well the fact that he is running a 28" tire knocks his gear ratio back down to 3.73's or even 3.55's and with an auto that isnt ideal. I think with the 5 speed and 4.10's you should have the edge. Those cars are extremely close though...i think it should be a close race. I also think that a 15.4 with those mods on a stick car is pathetic. Maybe someone should give him a civic EX 5 speed for a while til he learns how to drive!

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