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So I have a 94 stang lightning block 5.8 swap Holley heads trickflow stage 3 cam pushing 500+ crank pushrods have been measured at the correct length runs fine after replacing pushrods valves are sealing so the pistons aren’t contacting the valves do I just need hardened pushrods for this amount of power? I just keep snapping the heads right off right around 6500 rpm
 
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Get some hardened one piece pushrods from Trick Flow
 

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Could be valve float or poor geometry? What rocker setup? Hydraulic roller? Lash? How long has it been together?
 

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What kind of angle are the push rods at? Do you have guides in place too? You may be too tight on lash for that high of rpm.

Forgot to ask-are they oiling? Looks pretty dry.
 
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Geometry seems right roller is right on the center of the valve hydro roller system I heard you need to check lash periodically on aggressive cams for these motors it’s been together a two years and I never touched it and it’s dry because I cleaned it with brake clean before the picture
 
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Rockers are 1.6 comp cam
 

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You’re using stock pushrods with that setup?
 
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They’re not stock they’re aftermarket but they aren’t forged or anything part number is rp-3339 sealed power pushrods 5/16in by 7.572in
 

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They’re pretty much stock strength though. At any decent spring pressure it’s time to step up to hardened push rods. Trickflow makes chromoly ones for like $100
 

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Thought about it, any the don’t make tha length.

BTR One-Piece Pushrods PR7575312-16

Find BTR One-Piece Pushrods PR7575312-16 and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing! BTR one-piece pushrods deliver the quality you want for your build. Brian Tooley Racing precision-formed pushrods are constructed from SAE 4130 chromoly tubing, centerless ground to exacting...
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Those should work.
 
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96pushrod said:
They’re pretty much stock strength though. At any decent spring pressure it’s time to step up to hardened push rods. Trickflow makes chromoly ones for like $100
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Problem is I can’t find that exact length in anything stronger
 
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Perfect thanks dude!
96pushrod said:
Thought about it, any the don’t make tha length.

BTR One-Piece Pushrods PR7575312-16

Find BTR One-Piece Pushrods PR7575312-16 and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing! BTR one-piece pushrods deliver the quality you want for your build. Brian Tooley Racing precision-formed pushrods are constructed from SAE 4130 chromoly tubing, centerless ground to exacting...
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Those should work.
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Anyone heard anything about periodically checking lash on these motors? If so how often and do you check it by just resetting it?
 

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Jcsports said:
Anyone heard anything about periodically checking lash on these motors? If so how often and do you check it by just resetting it?
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Once you get a few heat cycles it’s not a bad idea to check preload. You running a hydraulic roller, correct?
They should stay pretty well adjusted.
 
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I’m going to put a set of lifters in too just to make sure I don’t have any issues any suggestions?

Was thinking these

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96pushrod said:
Once you get a few heat cycles it’s not a bad idea to check preload. You running a hydraulic roller, correct?
They should stay pretty well adjusted.
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I’m sure they’ll work fine. In all honestly, the stock ones work good too. You were probably just bending/deflecting the push rods which made it seem like the lifter may have been having problems.
 
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I’ve definitely got 1 collapsed lifter but the rod isn’t ruined on that cylinder so I’ve gotta do em anyway
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I’m sure they’ll work fine. In all honestly, the stock ones work good too. You were probably just bending/deflecting the push rods which made it seem like the lifter may have been having problems.
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