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I have the latest FRPP catalogue and all teh CAIs for our stangs say they sare gfor 5 gear transmissions- whcih means standards as the auto s are 4, right?
Why arent there any for automatics?
I really wish I could get some guidance on the best way to spend 450 from the catalog
 

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Yeah I have an auto tran too and did not know you couldn't get one. Whats with THAT????
 

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The Autos are 5 speed's
 

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k5zx said:
I have the latest FRPP catalogue and all teh CAIs for our stangs say they sare gfor 5 gear transmissions- whcih means standards as the auto s are 4, right?
Why arent there any for automatics?
I really wish I could get some guidance on the best way to spend 450 from the catalog
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FRPP. has recently updated its website, if you're Mustang GT is an 05 the automatic trans version of FRPP 1 will be comming soon the part # is M-2005-FR1A or if you have an 06 auto GT part # M-2006-FR1 is already available
2005 Mustangs
Manual - M-2005-FR1
Automatic - M-2005-FR1A
(Coming Soon)

2006 Mustangs
Manual & Automatic
M-2006-FR1
Here's the link http://www.fordracingparts.com/performancepackages/performancepackages.asp
 

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red05bullitgt said:
FRPP. has recently updated its website, if you're Mustang GT is an 05 the automatic trans version of FRPP 1 will be comming soon the part # is M-2005-FR1A or if you have an 06 auto GT part # M-2006-FR1 is already available
2005 Mustangs
Manual - M-2005-FR1
Automatic - M-2005-FR1A
(Coming Soon)

2006 Mustangs
Manual & Automatic
M-2006-FR1
Here's the link http://www.fordracingparts.com/performancepackages/performancepackages.asp
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Thanks, that what I thought I read about them, the question posed threw me a little.
 
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red05bullitgt said:
FRPP. has recently updated its website, if you're Mustang GT is an 05 the automatic trans version of FRPP 1 will be comming soon the part # is M-2005-FR1A or if you have an 06 auto GT part # M-2006-FR1 is already available
2005 Mustangs
Manual - M-2005-FR1
Automatic - M-2005-FR1A
(Coming Soon)

2006 Mustangs
Manual & Automatic
M-2006-FR1
Here's the link http://www.fordracingparts.com/performancepackages/performancepackages.asp
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Thanks for the info. The site has updated since you sent it to me, now that package is at
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9398
The CAI part of the package, part no. M-9603-GT05 by itself is $649.00!!!!

This generic one http://www.mustangtuning.com/mugtv8pocoai.html
is less than a hundred

This Steeda is 269$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/stgthiairkit.html
This JLT is 294$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/jlt-96-04-gt-cai.html

I don't think Densecharger makes one for the new GTs yet (but someone in my club told me he'd used 3 different CAIs on different models and the best was Densecharger).
Anyway, why does the FRPP CAI cost over twice what the others cost? What makes them so much better?
Thanks
 
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when i clicked on the ford racing link you included, it says in the description that it includes a cai, a muffler kit, and an oil filter. i would say that's what increases the cost
 

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k5zx said:
Thanks for the info. The site has updated since you sent it to me, now that package is at
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9398
The CAI part of the package, part no. M-9603-GT05 by itself is $649.00!!!!

This generic one http://www.mustangtuning.com/mugtv8pocoai.html
is less than a hundred

This Steeda is 269$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/stgthiairkit.html
This JLT is 294$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/jlt-96-04-gt-cai.html

I don't think Densecharger makes one for the new GTs yet (but someone in my club told me he'd used 3 different CAIs on different models and the best was Densecharger).
Anyway, why does the FRPP CAI cost over twice what the others cost? What makes them so much better?
Thanks
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The Steeda and JLT links you listed, are for 96-04 Mustang GT. not for the new 05-06 models..As for the reason why Densecharger doesn't offer a CAI for the new Gt's is because they no longer go by that name...the company's new name is Tunable Induction, by DeMolet, and they do offer a CAI for the 05-06 models the link for TI is..www.tunableinduction.com The reason why the FRPP CAI costs more than the others ?? its because Steeda has designed and enigineeed their CAI and all perfomance parts, Just for Ford..Steeda is also Ford's official aftermarket manufacturer who participate's directly with Ford, in its technology transfer program, with custom and performance parts makers. Hope this answers you're questions..
 

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89302guthrie said:
when i clicked on the ford racing link you included, it says in the description that it includes a cai, a muffler kit, and an oil filter. i would say that's what increases the cost
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The CAI and Pro Cal tool, are also available separately, you just click on the part # Anyway just in case..here's the link for the CAI.... www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8980
 

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k5zx said:
Thanks for the info. The site has updated since you sent it to me, now that package is at
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9398
The CAI part of the package, part no. M-9603-GT05 by itself is $649.00!!!!

This generic one http://www.mustangtuning.com/mugtv8pocoai.html
is less than a hundred

This Steeda is 269$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/stgthiairkit.html
This JLT is 294$ http://www.mustangtuning.com/jlt-96-04-gt-cai.html

I don't think Densecharger makes one for the new GTs yet (but someone in my club told me he'd used 3 different CAIs on different models and the best was Densecharger).
Anyway, why does the FRPP CAI cost over twice what the others cost? What makes them so much better?
Thanks
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I forgot to mention in my earlier reply, that you're generic link, you listed..is also for 96-04 Mustang. and not for the new 05-06 models.
 
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The Steeda and JLT links you listed, are for 96-04 Mustang GT. not for the new 05-06 models..As for the reason why Densecharger doesn't offer a CAI for the new Gt's is because they no longer go by that name...the company's new name is Tunable Induction, by DeMolet, and they do offer a CAI for the 05-06 models the link for TI is..www.tunableinduction.com The reason why the FRPP CAI costs more than the others ?? its because Steeda has designed and enigineeed their CAI and all perfomance parts, Just for Ford..Steeda is also Ford's official aftermarket manufacturer who participate's directly with Ford, in its technology transfer program, with custom and performance parts makers. Hope this answers you're questions..
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Thanks for all the help. You and wystang have been answering everyone of my posts lately.
 
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89302guthrie said:
when i clicked on the ford racing link you included, it says in the description that it includes a cai, a muffler kit, and an oil filter. i would say that's what increases the cost
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no the kit is over a grand. the CAI is over 600 (with the Pro Cal tool)
 
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red05bullitgt said:
The CAI and Pro Cal tool, are also available separately, you just click on the part # Anyway just in case..here's the link for the CAI.... www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=8980
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Does the pro cal tool just cal the CAI? It isnt anything ilke a tuner like sct is it? That wouldn't be such a bad deal. Even considering I messed up with all the comparison prices (they were all for earlier models) isnt over 6 alot for a CAI (assuming the pro cal tool isnt a tuner )?
 

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Does the pro cal tool just cal the CAI? It isnt anything ilke a tuner like sct is it? That wouldn't be such a bad deal. Even considering I messed up with all the comparison prices (they were all for earlier models) isnt over 6 alot for a CAI (assuming the pro cal tool isnt a tuner )?
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All the pro cal tool does is, re-flash the PCM's air/fuel curve, and the CAI.. It does not re-flash in the same way as an SCT X CAL II and you also cannot make any adjustments with the pro cal tool.. However if you're still interested..There are other vendors, that offer that package at a lower price..here's a link for Livernois Motorsports, you can buy from them for $529.99 http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/view.phtml?f_cat=2005+Mustang+Accessories:+Air+Filters otherwise, if you don't want the pro cal tool, then you'll need the SCT XCAL II
 

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Does the pro cal tool just cal the CAI? It isnt anything ilke a tuner like sct is it? That wouldn't be such a bad deal. Even considering I messed up with all the comparison prices (they were all for earlier models) isnt over 6 alot for a CAI (assuming the pro cal tool isnt a tuner )?
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Or you can also buy the Steeda version of FRPP CAI kit for $259.95 + the XCAL II for $379.95 from Livernois Motorsports... either way you decide, you won't fine a better deal than that.
 
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The Steeda and JLT links you listed, are for 96-04 Mustang GT. not for the new 05-06 models..As for the reason why Densecharger doesn't offer a CAI for the new Gt's is because they no longer go by that name...the company's new name is Tunable Induction, by DeMolet, and they do offer a CAI for the 05-06 models the link for TI is..www.tunableinduction.com The reason why the FRPP CAI costs more than the others ?? its because Steeda has designed and enigineeed their CAI and all perfomance parts, Just for Ford..Steeda is also Ford's official aftermarket manufacturer who participate's directly with Ford, in its technology transfer program, with custom and performance parts makers. Hope this answers you're questions..
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I went to the drag pack site again today and they had teh auto 06 set up now (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9401)
Instead of paying 1200 for it I think I will get the 8.8" RING GEAR AND PINION SETS and and INSTALLATION KIT
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9031
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=5962
from it (which will pretty much use up my balance at the dealership). and teh tuner and CAI from tunableinductions you list above.
the gear and pinion set will change my gear ratio to 3.73 Does this sound smart to you?
 

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go with 4.10s, you wont regret it!
 
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as far as I can tell the frpp catalogue doenst have 4.10 for autos. at least according to the link I put up.
 

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k5zx said:
I went to the drag pack site again today and they had teh auto 06 set up now (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9401)
Instead of paying 1200 for it I think I will get the 8.8" RING GEAR AND PINION SETS and and INSTALLATION KIT
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=9031
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=5962
from it (which will pretty much use up my balance at the dealership). and teh tuner and CAI from tunableinductions you list above.
the gear and pinion set will change my gear ratio to 3.73 Does this sound smart to you?
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If you're going to do a gear upgrade, I would go along with BigCat's recommendation to 4.10.. Otherwise, you're not going to notice much of a difference, if you just upgrade from you're stock 3.31 gear ratio to 3.73 anyway, so thats what I would do..Go with 4.10's
 

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as far as I can tell the frpp catalogue doenst have 4.10 for autos. at least according to the link I put up.
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If you have no other choice, but to purchase you're gear package from Ford, then I'm sorry to say that, at the present time..Ford does not offer a 4.10 gear package, for the 05-06 Mustang..So the only other option you have available, is purchase you're 4.10 package, from either another vendor..Or you'll have to settle for the 3.73 package, from Ford..
 
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