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Noobz347

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madmike1157 said:
Likely story,....give it back.
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The ice cream??? But it's Rocky Road.
 

stykthyn

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old_blue said:
I guess I am the only other person who watched Next Generation. I think it was Locutus though. Glad you kept the car. Good luck.
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Nope I caught it too. Definitely one the better tng storylines.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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stykthyn said:
Nope I caught it too. Definitely one the better tng storylines.
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As did I,...the most important spin off of of that story line was that it introduced Seven of Nine.
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** Notice the lack of Borg "appliances".

Seems the producers had a problem shaving her head,, making her wear pasty white make up, and a whole bunch of shunts coming out of places that shouldn't have "shunts".
 

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now I need to fire up netflix and watch some star trek. thanks a lot guys!!!
 

Noobz347

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Can you believe that she divorced her husband only because he wanted to do her and another chick at the same time???

Fickle thing.
 

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The nerve of her
 

5.0Droptop

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madmike1157 said:
There really isn't any predicament.


The wife argued w/ me this morning


I can't say that there won't be some other project in my future,

but right now the trade off for the "really cool car" in favor over the house that needs work on a dozen unfinished projects, becomes a pretty easy choice.


I hate trying to sell a damn car. It's such a pain in the ass.
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Easy solution. Get rid of the wife. Lol
 

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If I were you, I would keep that car for the REST OF MY LIFE! That is a lot of dough invested, not to mention all your time, blood, sweat, tears/eye balls. Seriously, keep it and get it in another mag once you do the webers.
 

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5.0Droptop said:
Easy solution. Get rid of the wife. Lol
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Oh C'mon! Did I really say all of that shi t? How many threads did you have to cut and paste to put that random collage of nonsense together?
 

5.0Droptop

...all those nights we shared, and you're a dude??
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madmike1157 said:
Oh C'mon! Did I really say all of that shi t? How many threads did you have to cut and paste to put that random collage of nonsense together?
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U said every word in post 13 of this thread. Lol
 

5.0Droptop

...all those nights we shared, and you're a dude??
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madmike1157 said:
There really isn't any predicament. The house isn't falling down or anything like that. It's just been 12 years since we moved in here, and there are too many things that I have let go long enough. The floors suck, Squirrels have moved into my attic (from lack of soffits over a new addition) The front porch needs completing, blah, blah, blah. I'm just at that point.


Nail on the head. Like a few others here, despite the hardship involved w/ the build, the thrill comes from the kill so to speak. The wife argued w/ me this morning on that very point. I can't say that there won't be some other project in my future, but right now the trade off for the "really cool car" in favor over the house that needs work on a dozen unfinished projects, becomes a pretty easy choice.

Mechum is a gold standard. They take a 7% commission in addition to a 250.00 entrance fee (plus the costs involved getting it there)
I'm just concerned that it doesn't measure up to that standard. The next several shows are wrong for several reasons:
The next one is too soon, the one after that is a private collection, after that is a Corvette venue. The Des Moines show is 3rd week of July, It'd be the first chance to even hope for.

I hate trying to sell a damn car. It's such a pain in the ass.
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See. I just posted it in layman terms.

I cant help it if i only read bits and pieces. Your wordy and i have adhd.

Oh look butterflies
 

5.0Droptop

...all those nights we shared, and you're a dude??
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madmike1157 said:
You didn't mention whether or not your 30-40k estimates are labor inclusive, or all based on cost of hardware alone.
Even at $30.00 per hour, if I had to pay some body shop to do the body work on my car, it'd be 30k w/o one piece of hardware. I don't know of any bodyshop even doing custom bodywork for 30.00 per hour, do you? ( or ANY bodywork for $30.00 per hour for that matter)
I realize that the end result of that bodywork isn't for everybody,.....but it doesn't take a trained eye to know that there is a bazillion hours in the labor to get it there.
The parts,.....now there is a different story. We all try and forget the "investment" we've put into these cars to get them to the perfect stage, ( and for the sake of my marraige I try to forget,.....conveniently) but if I remember correctly.......OH hell let's just look shall we?

Car orig purchase.........$1000.00
TMI interior................. $550.00
65 Door panels............. $ 300.00
65 door handles ........... $ 100.00
ACC carpet................. $120.00
Interior dye, glue, fabric $ 150.00
Audio system $750.00
A/C system.....................$ 1100.00
B&M ripper.........................$200.00
Autometer gauges............ $850.00
Roll bar, harnesses............. $250.00
Floor mats.............................$80.00
87 Sport seats................... $350.00

Total cockpit.....................$5800.00

Engine, trans used ............ $2500.00
Afterburner headers..............$350.00
Edelbrock intake....................$400.00
MSD ign.................................$400.00
Jegs Coil packs.......................$200.00
Summit 600 CFM carb..........$250.00
Patriot heads and cams.........$2000.00
Valve covers............................$ 200.00
Jegs radiator, fan, shroud......$450.00
Centerforce clutch..................$350.00
Driveshaft shortening.............$100.00
8.8 rebuild: gears, axles, clutches
bearings, ...................................$450.00
Full 2.25" exhaust w/ 4 muffs$ 300.00
Total steer manual rack w/
Bumpsteer, steering shaft $400.00

Total drivetrain.................. $8150.00

Holley fuel pump....................$ 220.00
Misc lines, fittings....................$200.00
Custom Tank materials...........$100.00

Total Fuel system.....................$550.00

Cobra brake upgrade.........
New spindles, hubs....................$250.00
New front rotors, calipers, pads$350.00
New rear brakes from NRC $550.00
Wilwood master cylinder $200.00
misc lines, prop valve $100.00

Total brakes......................... $1400.00

Centerline wheels.....................$1250.00
Nitto tires..................................$ 500.00

Total wheels/tires $1750.00

Strange single adj alum coilovers
w/ 175lb springs pr.........................$ 480.00
UPR coilover kit, Monroe struts
150 lb front springs........................$440.00
UPR CC plates...............................$120.00
Steeda Upper/LCA bushings .........$150.00

Total suspension.......................... $1190.00

Misc body

68 sheetmetal, lights, gas cap,
hood scoop, ornaments, stripes
LED Seq T/S kit.... $1250.00
Sheetmetal, bodyshop supplies $ 750.00
Paint, primer, clear coat...........$ 650.00

Total misc body..........................$2650.00


Total of parts.............................$21,090.00



This doesn't take into consideration the goofy assed homemade K member, subframe connectors, crossmember, or the fact that I payed that painter through traded out labor,....most of these "guesses" are low, and I'm sure I've forgotten some stuff,...
But I certainly have just as much in my car as your Dart block based/turbo build cars you cited.

Not that it matters anyway,....I'm not selling it anymore anyway. I'm keeping it for the rest of the year at least.
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Take this for what it's worth

Anyone who has been on stangnet for a long period knows that i get a car and not long after sale it. I havent always been honest as to why i sold them.

Truth is I have had and sold MANY nice cars and other valuable items to pay the bills and get caught up. Did It take care if the need at the time. Yes.

Truth is though I would replace the car and not long after something else comes up so i would liquidate again and Id lose money/time/labor etc etc
It can be an endless cycle.

It seems that there is always something that requires money NOW. I kinda regret my decision to sale sale sale to make ends meet because in the geand scheme of things given some time i coulda worked it all out.

The good news for me is:
I landed a new job in february that came with a hefty raise and company truck. I had money in my 401k and i used it to pay all my debts off except my house. So hopefully my sale sale sale days are behind me.

The good news for you is the IRS will usually accept some sort payment arrangements.

You have a lot of money in the parts alone not to even mention your labor.

Your going to lose a lot of money
If you sell it. If you can: Keep it...try to find a way.

I do not think you will regret keeping it.

To this day I regret the decision i made 8 yrs ago to sale my 87droptop. It wasnt near as nice as many of the cars that grace the pages of stangnet. But it was the one i built the way i wanted it.

Dont kno what ya got sometimes till you let go of it.

Or maybe it should read you dont appreciate something till you let it go and then run across pics of it and start regretting.
 

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stykthyn said:
now I need to fire up netflix and watch some star trek. thanks a lot guys!!!
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Star Trek voyager
 

CarMichael Angelo

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5.0Droptop said:
Take this for what it's worth


Dont kno what ya got sometimes till you let go of it.

Or maybe it should read:
you don't appreciate something till you let it go;..... if it comes back to you, then it's yours forever. If it doesn't, then it was never meant to be.
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And then run across pics of it and start regretting.
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What tha, .......Love Story???? You couldn't come up w/ better advice than to plagerize a line from that Marshmallow?

Seriously, you and I are one of the same. I always build some cool car only to sacrifice it to the need to eliminate the perceived crisis at hand. It was that way w/ the last big Turbo car that I built, and the one before that for that matter. It just seems that w/ each project, the crisis at the time is bigger, and more urgent than the last.

I have an "arrangement" with the man. I've been living w/ the payment on this IRS debt for two years now. It's DOWN to 9500.00,..but on april 17, 2010....that bill read $20,000.00.
Now I know on one hand someone will look at that and say... "see you've managed to whittle the original debt down to less than half, you're doing it."......I'd say to them I'll bet you'd grab your chest on the current balance,....I know I'd be reading your name in the obits from the first one.
 

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LOL you built a car like this and you owe money to the IRS your Priorities are f'ed up. Your not some 23yr old that doesn't know any better.

My advise is read your history and do the opposite next time
 

CarMichael Angelo

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S&B said:
LOL you built a car like this and you owe money to the IRS your Priorities are f'ed up. Your not some 23yr old that doesn't know any better.

My advise is read your history and do the opposite next time
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Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Isn't that how it always goes when you volunteer too much info?


Yes, priorities are fk'd up. I had a 365.00 car pymt. Plus the required full coverage ins. when I incurred this debt. I sold that car (gto) and bought this little hoopty 2 years ago.
The entire drivetrain was laying in the corner, as well as the electronics, and gauges from an even earlier bailed on project circa 07'. A lot of the parts that are on this car were here before it was.


We all balance priorities between perceived wants, and needs. Despite the obvious, I manged this build while paying the debt down simultaneously. The way I see it,not having the gto payment and it's required ins. Payed that debt down, by moving that " luxury" I freed up 500.00 monthly that went to the man.

So yeah, you can laugh out loud at my expense, The purpose of this thread was simply to state that I was ready to give it up to get through w/ the monkey on my back, not ask for your approval one way or the other.
 

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I am truly impressed that you managed to whittle that bill down so fast even while maintaining a hobby!
 
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I hate hearing stories like this because it's amazing to me how the government will come after one person for everything they have, while asking nothing of another person, in fact, supporting them. I'm not going to get too political here, but I feel that pain.

Anyways, I sold my car for some of the same reasons. Mustangs were my obsession for so long. I was proud of my car and nothing beat that feeling. It was much apart of who I am. Big part of my life it always will be. One thing about a car hobby is that you are constantly devoting money towards it. As you go deeper into it, the more it cost, and you don't get that money out of it. This last mustang didn't cost much, but I kept it insured and kept a tag on it. It probably cost me only about $500 a year, maybe a bit more. There were things I needed to do to it, which would have required money and time, and it was always on my "to do" list. So I sold it. It was hard watching it drive off. It was a damn straight car and I watched it roll off and I sold it for way under what I thought it was worth. However, I felt quite relieved a few hours later. So many other things I need to concentrate on. My house, there are so many things on that to do list. I need to either focus on this career or move to another one. Just so many other things I need to devote my time towards.
 

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madmike1157 said:
What tha, .......Love Story???? You couldn't come up w/ better advice than to plagerize a line from that Marshmallow?

Seriously, you and I are one of the same. I always build some cool car only to sacrifice it to the need to eliminate the perceived crisis at hand. It was that way w/ the last big Turbo car that I built, and the one before that for that matter. It just seems that w/ each project, the crisis at the time is bigger, and more urgent than the last.

I have an "arrangement" with the man. I've been living w/ the payment on this IRS debt for two years now. It's DOWN to 9500.00,..but on april 17, 2010....that bill read $20,000.00.
Now I know on one hand someone will look at that and say... "see you've managed to whittle the original debt down to less than half, you're doing it."......I'd say to them I'll bet you'd grab your chest on the current balance,....I know I'd be reading your name in the obits from the first one.
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thats a heavy burden to carry with the irs involved. I understand your decision

I Hope you can work it all out and keep your car too.
 

5.0Droptop

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S&B said:
LOL you built a car like this and you owe money to the IRS your Priorities are f'ed up. Your not some 23yr old that doesn't know any better.

My advise is read your history and do the opposite next time
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I can understand mikes choice to build the car. Just because he owed money dosent mean he cant continue a hobby. In fact it probably kept him sane by keeping him busy.
 
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