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In this case we are all non-Union in a corporate type office, but there are still things that HR will not touch due to lawsuit potential.
I will say, in 15 years this is the first time I’ve really had a problem with an individual like this. It really takes up so much of my time. I can’t say anything bad about any of the other individuals I’ve had the pleasure of mentoring
I will say, in 15 years this is the first time I’ve really had a problem with an individual like this. It really takes up so much of my time. I can’t say anything bad about any of the other individuals I’ve had the pleasure of mentoring
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The employee that misses 2 - 3 days a week and is a problem? You bet he is...... This bad apple makes all of the other employees work harder to make up for him and the union will protect him.....
That’s exactly what the problem is. My other folks need to work harder to make up for his missing labor and it creates animosity.
If anything, I feel bad for my good employees so I need to do what I need to do for them.
School unions make it so an incompetent or uncooperative tenured employee can be fired after they get a chance at Super High Intensive Training. But the supervisor has to document it well, and most are too busy or lazy to do it consistently, so a the threat of a hearing often keeps the employee there.
What do trade and other unions do to protect slackers or otherwise poor employees?
My last job we had a horrible HR woman... She was hispanic and had come from a California government job ( Another transplant to Oregon) and she seemed to be racist towards other NON hispanic people.... About 30 employees had an intervention at the end of work one day with the owner over her...... She is still there as far as I know..... Used to joke she had caught the owner with a hooker...........
Trade unions dont... you don't pull your weight you get laid off. Yeah it's not fired but that goes on record, one man layoff don't look good. Eventually you get black listed. That means you may never work for that contractor again.
Don't lump us all in one category.
I understand the stigma and bad view points some have painted us with. They would be a shifty employee union or not.
Don't lump us all in one category.
I understand the stigma and bad view points some have painted us with. They would be a shifty employee union or not.
Unions have their place, I can't say anything bad,
Story time: my mom was a secretary for the local labor union when I was a kid, a man was harassing her and one day shows up at the office and caused a scene, he moved out of state the next day.
Unions have been good to workers. They have their place.
Story time: my mom was a secretary for the local labor union when I was a kid, a man was harassing her and one day shows up at the office and caused a scene, he moved out of state the next day.
Unions have been good to workers. They have their place.
BullHis actions make him a bad guy, and a lousy employee. Wether or not he's union doesn't really matter, but many of us have seen this type of behavior from people who are Union- and therefor cannot be fired.
As a Union rep I was part of numerous actions with employees. As a rep I was responsible for interpretation of the contract and if you broke that language you were sent on your way. A union contract is between the company and the union represented employees and must be followed. The same language that protects your job also makes sure you perform to the best of your ability. I've had no recourse several times over the years for employees who violated their obligation. They hit the road.
Sounds like you were a good Union Rep. Obviously some of us had different experiences. Don't lump all of us together, either. We could just as easily call on your stories, too.
on your stories, too.
I was responding to your blanket opinion that a union, all union, employees could not be fired. Not true I'm my profession and I know the same is true in construction. Peer pressure will make you perform. If you don't you hit the bricks. Someone mentioned a one man layoff. In other words you just got fired. You get too many of those and you'll have trouble getting a job and lasting any time.Sounds like you were a good Union Rep. Obviously some of us had different experiences. Don't lump all of us together, either. We could just as easily call
Most, not all, opinions on unions come from right wing radio. I used to hear it all the time how unions are ruining business. A contract negotiation is agreed upon by both parties. If it causes issues with a companies finacial outlook then that is their fault. Corporations spend millions in union opposition. Ask yourself why. A union contract keeps things honest and I'll support working people fighting for a decent living over a billion dollar corporation every day.
I guess the manager of the Camaro/Firebird line I used to tip a couple of beers with listened to right wing radio too, even though he is Black.... The union stories he told me were truly unbelievable...... Stories like having an electrical plug from a machine on the line come out and having to wait for hours for the " Electrical Union " guys to finally get there ( in their golf cart) to plug in back in so the could start the line to build cars again...
Or waiting for the " Piper Fitter union " guys to unplug the quick connector lines to a machine to change it out......
You or I didn't dare touch those simple items to get things going again or the UNIONS would make a scandal out of things.....
Just a couple of the stories...... And we wonder why America lost the car building business to " overseas" NON union corporations??
