Thanks I might take ya up on that, actually I'd luv to take my truck up there though I just need to find a Offroad type air filter cover because im running a JLT intake witch consists of this huge S&B air filter with no box sitting on the top of my motor, the power with the SCT TUNE and JLT intake is incredible but im worried about the sand getting in the filter because its so fine, if it was dirt I wouldnt be as conserned but im sure they make a filter cover for it that I can get just gotta find it . Hey since your the "instigator" have you ever heard of RIZE lift kits ? There kinda costly but they look sweet and they make them in 6 , 8 or 10" I like the 8 inch . Do ya get any drive line vibration with taller lifts or anything I should be cautious about. Dont mean to change the subject but im getting ready for a trip to sand lake