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[moosetang408w]

It started as a old truck engine

The build

I hope get the engine and begin my header build by early April!! The streets will not be safe this summer lol


The Mustang it will be going into:
Baer Brakes, Maximum Motorsports K-Member, Coil overs(koni), 8point cage, 95 cobra R hood, 95 Cobra R Rims.

 

[BlackVert]

nice ...

welcome to the club.

i bet you are stoked!

what kind of setup is that ... injectors but a 4 barrel thing and an intake/filter that makes it look carbed?

and what are you doing for ignition ... there's no distributor!

 

[Pokageek]

Pretty cool.

 

[1slow95]

Very nice. Factory roller block? or did you do the roller conversion? And yeah, what ignition and engine management will you be using? I'll guess an AEM with LS1 coil packs, because I've been looking into that myself.

What kind of HP numbers are you looking for?

 

[Hef5.0weisen]

Looks like its in your living room in a few shots....thats dedication.

Have fun with it.

 

[moosetang408w]

Yes the last bit of the build was in my living room. . Hey, you do what you have to do.

Here are few of the details:

Accel DFI Throttle Body: 1250CFM (I don't believe it though)
super victor efi intake
60lb injectors
ported victor jr heads
scat 9000 stroker crank
eagle h rods
proble flat top pistons

I measured it at 10.8:1 Compression

I will be using the LS1 coil packs. I am waiting for a milled piece to get back to hold the coils and I plan to do a nice weld onto the valve covers to hold the coil packs.

For the ignition I am using a vipec v44 ECU. (I used to be the electronics lead on a university SAE program so this is one I really enjoyed)

The "distributor" is a msd oil plug with a hall effect sensor for my sync signal and I have a msd trigger wheel on my balancer.

 

[Pokageek]

"I will be using the LS1 coil packs. I am waiting for a milled piece to get back to hold the coils and I plan to do a nice weld onto the valve covers to hold the coil packs."

Yea welcome to 400+ c.i. Please post up any info on this. What does it do vs standard distributor? More HP? How much? Thanks.

 

[moosetang408w]

I don't know what it can do for HP. It will obviously deliver a more powerful spark at higher rpms because each coil fires once per revolution(I am runing wasted spark) instead of four times when you have one coil. The big thing I like about it is the tunibility when teamed with a good ECU. For example if I decide to put Nitrous on this engine I can have it set then when nitrous is injected it will use a secondary map with a "retarded" ignition.

So for HP it may help expecially at higher RPM but probably not that much. Tuiblity is why I love it, and it is so much cleaner without a distributor. With no disributor there is a possiblity for some VERY interesting forced induction setups..

 

[BlackVert]

keith, with that setup, the computer also gets a more accurate and reliable signal of the exact position of the crank, so the spark timing can be more exact.

looks great, i am looking forward to learning more about your build.

just curius ... how much does that vipec v44 cost? looks like a nice device.

 

[moosetang408w]

It is a very nice device. It started with Motec then from that a company formed with a product called Autronic. The autronic line has now turned into this Vipec which I think is very comparable to the Motec. Very nice. The nice thing is it is much cheaper. I can only speak for here in Alberta, Canada but Autronic was about 2800 and the Vipec v44 is about 1600CAD.

 

[S351Saleen77]

Nice!!!

Will you make me a set of Headers when your done with your's?

 

[Chern_889]

Another sick Canadian stang! looks hot, no replacement for displacement

 

[95Vert383AOD]

I see a slim looking throttle body/ Throttle position sensor. I thought about doing that myself but does that mean your engine wont have Mass Air??

 

[moosetang408w]

I think the headers are going to be the most work. I am almost positive after I finish with this set the last thing I will feel like doing will be make another. I will post pictures of the header build. I think i have a good plan....I hope

as for the throttle body I do not have a mass air flow sensor. I have a fairly lumpy cam and at idle the overlap can cause pulses of air that make false mass air flow sensor readings. For tuning I will have a wideband running in closed loop, throttle position, and manifold air pressure.

I will start posting more pics of my project if you guys want. i am fairly new to the forums.

 

[BlackVert]

I think the headers are going to be the most work. I am almost positive after I finish with this set the last thing I will feel like doing will be make another. I will post pictures of the header build. I think i have a good plan....I hope

as for the throttle body I do not have a mass air flow sensor. I have a fairly lumpy cam and at idle the overlap can cause pulses of air that make false mass air flow sensor readings. For tuning I will have a wideband running in closed loop, throttle position, and manifold air pressure.

I will start posting more pics of my project if you guys want. i am fairly new to the forums.

why make your own headers ... for the experience?

for the amount of time it will take and the amount of money you might save doing it yourself, it might make sense to buy some. i have accufab mid-lengths. i am happy with them and i thought they were reasonably priced

that is .... if you believe that old saying, "time is money"

and yes please ... more pics

 

[moosetang408w]

I am building the headers for the experience. I have a tig welder at my expense so I am the kind of guy to go down the road less travelled. I have looked at other headers but I told myself I was going to make my own headers. It is going to be tough but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger...I hope.

 

[BlackVert]

i understand completely. after the kids are off to college and after i build a garage, i am also the type to give it a try for the learning experience. welding is a good skill to have

for me, the 2nd time doing it, it usually takes 1/2 as long because i learned to avoid the mistakes i made the first time around

 

[mob]

That is hardcore!

 

[xr8d302]

Good to see another Canuck in these here parts

I wanna keep updated on this build for sure

 

[Black Stampede]

Nice build man. As for the car, cobra bumper and clear headlights and it would look hot.