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Build Thread 1978 Mercury Cyclone. The pig is in the pen.

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droopie85gt

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Let's see it. Enough of the ol politcal crap. We'll get to that ad naseum sometime in '20.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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I'll admit to being in a slump.

On another open tab, there is the entire written copy required to sell this car on C/L.
While writing it, I realized (as if I didn't already know ) the extent of just how heavily modified the car is.If I write out the list of what has been done, and what was required to do it, then turn around and read it aloud to somebody, It'll either be a detriment or a bargain to somebody who even remotely considers buying it.

That is if they're still awake when I finish blabbing about it.

I mean what would somebody have to pay a shop to build this stupid thing? It's stupid to even consider it.

I become disinterested with the project when I no longer use it, or have fun doing it. Using this car is easy, all I have to do is get in it, and turn the key.
But then the belt squeals. No rhyme or reason for doing it, it didn't do it the last time I started it,..but here that noisy btch is, sounding like two pieces of metal running against each other w/o the benefit of any oil between them.

I watched a YouTube video that detailed the diag process to determine the source of the noise( belt, or bearing) and I’m sure it’s the belt. I guess I’ll attempt to tighten the thing some more and see if that will fix it. All I can say is that if I run the engine and get it hot, “sometimes” that noise is terrible, and “sometimes” it’s not.
Nonetheless, getting to the tensioner adjustment requires that I put the car in the air, and finagle an open ended wrench up in there to try and adjust it... it’s a pain in the ass. So, last night I bought a set of crowfoot wrenches to see if that’ll make the process a little easier.
I actually needed the open ended versions, and not these, as right now, I don’t know how I’ll even get the stupid wrench on the Clevis to adjust it because of the little “ crow foot” part...( I’ll probably have to modify the freakin wrench to turn my modified tensioner....I shoulda just cut up an old open ended wrench, and welded a socket onto it, as a custom made tool and saved the money I spent on the set).
You can see the almost finished valve cover,...I need to order a nicer looking 3/4” pipe plug instead of that dorky brass thing, and finish the lines coming out of the oil/water separator in black. I have that stuff.

And the other end of the dash is capped now,....it didn’t turn out as nice as the drivers side, but it’ll do pig,....it’ll do.

As for the slump,....I don’t know...after writing the ad copy to list the thing,...I just stopped and left it. I thought “What would I replace it with if I sold it?”
I don’t know,....there’s nothing I want. And anything I’d get will end up putting me right where I am now...
Bored with it....bored with my usage options..( cruise-ins, car shows,....hell,...just driving it)
I know that any form of track is out, to me nothing would be more detrimental to the future resale of a car that has been set up as a race car.
If things were different, and I hadn’t already leased a new replacement for the mini, I might have considered using the proceeds as a down payment on a slightly used M3.
Or try to find a Triumph TR6,....or some equally obscure and not as collectible muscle car....( that I know I’d hate almost immediately)
I could do the responsible thing, and buy down the house, or conversely go on a once in a lifetime big vacation,...

But then there’d be this excellent air conditioned/ heated man cave with a see through garage space.......sitting empty.

I think people would label me a “ malcontent”........ never happy with anything I do, am part of, or own...
I’m so unworthy.
 
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An idea for your next project...

One that will come as surely as I'm sitting here...

It may be time for a land yaht with a healthy supply of "go".

The mind wonders:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird_(fifth_generation)

For the road trip:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird_(fifth_generation)
 

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Ther wil be none of that....

Just cause you're losing interest doesn't mean we are. If you don't like it turn the monster into something else. Make him an aussie utility vehicle... or ....

Believe me ( in my Trump voice ) we've all been there. It usually happens when you start looking at all the little things that " you" think need to be redone. Looking at all the little do overs makes the scale of the project look too great and zaps energy just looking at it. Makes it seem like time wasted. That's all cured by actually driving the thing.

Fix what you need to drive it without the noise or wafts of smoke ( unless it's from the tires ). Be there for the Monster.... he was there even when the cat wasn't.

If you sell him now it's because you're just an immortal person, Mike. The kind that just bails out when the times get tough. The type that'll just walk away from an argument withot voicing your opinion..... the type we know you are not.
 
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Just gotta buckle down and fix the annoyances you have with it so you can enjoy driving it. Im in the middle of that myself with my car. My left front tire has a weird camber issue, my home made H pipe has a loud noticable tick now that I have tail pipes. The tail pipes I had made dont fit like I wanted so I am having to modify them. The car doesnt drive too well since its not yet tuned. My brand new rear main seal leaks, as well as my pinion seal. I can go on and on. Im not going to sell it because Im frustrated. Im taking some time off from it and coming back when Im not as frustrated.
 
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For shtz & giggles-can we see the clist ad?
 
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RaggedGT said:
For shtz & giggles-can we see the clist ad?
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"Gila monster for sale. Worth more than a Lamborghini. Everything hand made. Does not include flux capacitor".
 
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90sickfox said:
Ther wil be none of that....

Just cause you're losing interest doesn't mean we are. If you don't like it turn the monster into something else. Make him an aussie utility vehicle... or ....

Believe me ( in my Trump voice ) we've all been there. It usually happens when you start looking at all the little things that " you" think need to be redone. Looking at all the little do overs makes the scale of the project look too great and zaps energy just looking at it. Makes it seem like time wasted. That's all cured by actually driving the thing.

Fix what you need to drive it without the noise or wafts of smoke ( unless it's from the tires ). Be there for the Monster.... he was there even when the cat wasn't.

If you sell him now it's because you're just an immortal person, Mike. The kind that just bails out when the times get tough. The type that'll just walk away from an argument withot voicing your opinion..... the type we know you are not
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Now I gotta tell ya.....I’m far from an immortal...so don’t go trying to prove me wrong by sending me a pipe bomb or anything along those lines...

It’s not the little things,...I know they are little things. If I wanted to drive the thing , the sometimes squealing belt...obscure bubble bodywork, potential oil leak would be the last things stopping me.

The point is I don’t care that much.

I went down there last night before writing this and looked at the car long and hard,.....I’ve said it before, and I’m not too ashamed to do so again,....im proud as hell of the end result.

That don’t change the fact that I’m bored with it.
 
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RaggedGT said:
For shtz & giggles-can we see the clist ad?
Click to expand...

* cut from the C/L preview posting
For sale is my 1978 Ford Fairmont. There are so many custom items on this car it will take pages to describe.
Car is/was hand built by me in my garage. The body has had the bumpers integrated, the rear tail lights are 1968 Shelby pieces. Engine is a combination of US/Australian/German pieces that started life as US 250 I-6 out of a 1978 Maverick. The head is Australian, and comes with all new internals using SBC, and BBC pieces. The throttle bodies are from a BMW M3, and have been adapted to fit, The engine is distributorless and uses EDIS, it is roller cammed, turbocharged, fuel injected, and water meth intercooled. Horsepower is estimated to be in the 350-400 range at 7 psi. Several items are all hand fabricated, and as I've said, too numerous to list here. The trans is a 4R70w converted to shift fully manual. It uses 3 gears that you shift, and the 4th and converter lock up are enabled with buttons.
The fully rebuilt rear has a traction loc rear diff, and is a disc brake 8.8 with 3.73 gears. The brakes are off of a 95 Cobra Mustang.
The interior is fully custom built, and is made from chromoly steel tube, and 18 ga. plate, covered in leather.
The car is controlled with a MSII ECU, and has New Vintage instrumentation.
Wheels are 17x8/17x10.5 torque thrust with 245/315 Sumitomo rubber.
Car is painted in Ford Competition Orange.
The car is a Fairmont, but it's badged as a Cyclone.

Pay attention here please...

I do not want to trade.
I cannot Finance it.
It is hand built by me,..it is very good, but far from perfect. (and I've priced it that way)
I am selling it because I don't drive it.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
* cut from the C/L preview posting
For sale is my 1978 Ford Fairmont. There are so many custom items on this car it will take pages to describe.
Car is/was hand built by me in my garage. The body has had the bumpers integrated, the rear tail lights are 1968 Shelby pieces. Engine is a combination of US/Australian/German pieces that started life as US 250 I-6 out of a 1978 Maverick. The head is Australian, and comes with all new internals using SBC, and BBC pieces. The throttle bodies are from a BMW M3, and have been adapted to fit, The engine is distributorless and uses EDIS, it is roller cammed, turbocharged, fuel injected, and water meth intercooled. Horsepower is estimated to be in the 350-400 range at 7 psi. Several items are all hand fabricated, and as I've said, too numerous to list here. The trans is a 4R70w converted to shift fully manual. It uses 3 gears that you shift, and the 4th and converter lock up are enabled with buttons.
The fully rebuilt rear has a traction loc rear diff, and is a disc brake 8.8 with 3.73 gears. The brakes are off of a 95 Cobra Mustang.
The interior is fully custom built, and is made from chromoly steel tube, and 18 ga. plate, covered in leather.
The car is controlled with a MSII ECU, and has New Vintage instrumentation.
Wheels are 17x8/17x10.5 torque thrust with 245/315 Sumitomo rubber.
Car is painted in Ford Competition Orange.
The car is a Fairmont, but it's badged as a Cyclone.

Pay attention here please...

I do not want to trade.
I cannot Finance it.
It is hand built by me,..it is very good, but far from perfect. (and I've priced it that way)
I am selling it because I don't drive it.
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I don’t see a price......
 

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If you have to ask you can't afford it
 
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Let's paint it green and start a new monster thread, what do you say Mike?
 
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It seems that you are looking for something that you can't find...

The things you deemed important don't give much satisfaction as they once did.

When you reach the end of yourself, PM me. I have the answers you need.

Joe R.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
Joe is gonna try and save me now.....over my indecision over what to do with a car.....
I'm not ready to walk the path yet Joe,.......go save somebody else.
When God starts btch slapping priests that molest children in the service of God,...then you can talk to me about my indecisiveness over what to do about a car.
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Well, I stirred up your fire, that is some improvement over your melancholy...

While the headlines about the evil done by Catholic priests is all over the news, you'll never hear or see the justice that will come to them for what they did. That justice is not sensational news that gets everybody excited and angry. It doesn't make headlines, sell newspapers or advertising. If it gets any notice at all, it will be in the background or back pages where you'll never see it or hear it; the devil will make sure of that it goes unreported or under reported.
 
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85ragtop said:
"Gila monster for sale. Worth more than a Lamborghini. Everything hand made. Does not include flux capacitor or machine guns due to Federal regulations".
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fixt
 
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Maybe I missed the part about why you don't drive it, but I understand. I had previously mentioned to my wife something about selling the mustang at one point when I hated it. Her words were, "Absolutely not. You'll make it about a week before you start bugging me to buy something else."

Maybe you should:

- Put an IRS in it, but do one of those funky setups where the shocks/coils are in the trunk and uses through-the-floor pushrods and go tear up the bama roads.

- Make it AWD

- Make fold out machine guns (as a last resort)
 
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He just needs to fix the squeaky belt and drive that thing.

Oh, and the leaky valve cover


and paint it green
 

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Cars for me have always been a way of expression. Even the drag cars had way over the top details that most of the other racers found unnecessary.
The orange/black car had black carpet that had orange seams,...( I did that because it was a meth fueled car and a meth fuel fire burns invisibly.....by having NYLON inside the cabin with me, not only would I be able to see the fire, I'd also have burning melted plastic sticking to me to enhance the experience, not to mention possibly caustic fumes to round it all out.) One of the nitrous cars had 4 nozzles off of the purge solenoid that completely obscured the windshield when I would purge the nitrous.....ya know,...stupid sht like that.

It's no secret that I actually enjoy the build more than I do the finished product....but being in one continuous build will tax me.
Since december of last year, this car has had the fuel system completely changed, The entire engine removed, bottom end rebuilt, new ITB induction system built, new exhaust system built, then both pieces modified to allow me to reintegrate a new turbo system. The gauges were converted.... which in of itself required a whole new housing be built and recovered to allow that...and despite all of that crazy junk....it's running again.

And i still have to deal with the old gremlins....crankcase venting,....squeaking belt,.....oil leaks...

And irs alone doesn't interest me....It will mean I give up my 315's, and I aint doing that. Conversely, a wide body modification to allow a stock length irs AND my 315's does....But that'll mean I'd have to bulge the front fenders and put bigger 275 rubber up front....

and that'll mean another year of working on a car that doesn't roll under its own power.

Wheels are probably the next thing I'd change....I just gotta swallow spending 2000.00 on them.
 
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Just think of the engine(s) you could build for this.
 

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Irs.......275s up front.....widening with 315s in the rear. Told you you were immortal. Just thinking about half the stuff you conjure would make a mortal mans head explode.

Oil leaks and squeaky belts are getting you down after the spectacular fantabulistic modifications you've bestowed on the " Gila Monster ".

I think this is just a follower check, like one of the previous posts, just to get us involved and see who cares enough to comment.

After this comes a new theory.... and a trained direction.... getting you even higher in monster scientist awesomeness.

( this may look simple.... but almost every word has been typed twice. My phone is stupid and keeps auto screwing with everything )
 
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