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Build Thread 1978 Mercury Cyclone. The pig is in the pen.

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General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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KIAJUU or KIABUTSU
 

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CTHULHU
 
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lemosley1973

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My opinion - no custom plate. They are too easy to remember, so if you're out doing something dumb and people don't have time to whip out the phone, remembering 'DMBFCK' is a lot easier than 2JZ9876

If you insist, then something that incorporates 2JZ seems appropriate. Maybe 2JZ3AMD.
 
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lemosley1973

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Also, I noticed a few posts back that the 3AMD came at 4:17am. Does it also observe DST? Bad Demon.
 
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2Blue2

will be trying this sex one when I can find it
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lemosley1973 said:
My opinion - no custom plate.
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I've heard real men don't have custom plates, but if so then the word is in your title 'Cyclone'.
I imagine you've already considered this option extensively.
 

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Noobz347 said:


CTHULHU
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His hood mural
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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And after I said I wasnt asking for opinions..
Oh well, better than silence.

I refer to the car daily here as " the monster"
Remember the origins of the namesake...
Beaded slow moving American lizard from the SW desert...not very fast, but poisonous nonetheless.

I thought 2JAYZ for a long while, but again...
Who other than a car guy ( and not every car guy) knows what the fck a 2jz is?
CYCLONE is all over the car..I'd liken adding it to the plate to be similar to getting a windshield decal with the word MUSTANG plastered across the header.
I like the ambiguous reference to Peekachoo somebody may take away from that plate...it suits me.
 

BlakeusMaximus

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I think 2JAYZ will give people the wrong impression. Like, your a fan of that horrible rapper.
 
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90sickfox

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I would never tell anyone to drive with a vibration. ...even if it's a Dodge Ram. ( they have a known vibration issue )

I've been down the rabbit whole dissecting all types of stuff to get to the bottom of noises and vibrations in my personal cars. I won't live with anything that might be slowly eating away at other parts. Everything has to be right or I'll have absolutely no faith in my vehicle....at that point what's the point of even owning it anymore.

I say dumb $*it in this thread to get a response. If I say something smart you tend to pass over it. You have no tolerance for bull $*it. Sometimes I have to play the roll of the dude I once was 25yrs ago. Glad to know that you know I'm not that dumb.
 
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Meh. Our opinions are free! Try getting anything free from your Doctor.

Who knows, maybe someone comes up with something clever. Like 2JZ3AMD....not that I"m pushing that or anything.

So what if the rest of the world doesn't know what it means. The people that count - your loyal thread followers here - will. Think of all the effort we've spent following this thread. Think of all the time we've missed with our children and wives/girlfriends (some of whom are now EX-wives/gfs since the thread started).

 

CarMichael Angelo

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lemosley1973 said:
Meh. Our opinions are free! Try getting anything free from your Doctor.

Who knows, maybe someone comes up with something clever. Like 2JZ3AMD....not that I"m pushing that or anything.

So what if the rest of the world doesn't know what it means. The people that count - your loyal thread followers here - will. Think of all the effort we've spent following this thread. Think of all the time we've missed with our children and wives/girlfriends (some of whom are now EX-wives/gfs since the thread started).

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You can just ignore me...There’s always that.
 

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Now why would we do that? That does not sound like fun at all....
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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Yesterday I was at a Convenience store standing in line to buy my typical mid afternoon staples (White Monster, and a whachamacallit) when I noticed a guy pull in towing a Box top fairmont drag car on a trailer. Since I didn’t have anything else to do while in line but watch, I realize I know the guy. When I get my stuff paid for I walk over to the car, when he recognizes me, it’s all he can do to keep from rushing over and hugging me.
“I see nothing has changed for you“ I said, “ Still throwing your money down the drain on a drag car.”
” Yep,....except I finally followed your lead and decided to build a Fairmont this time”, he tells me.
“ Thats because you Chevy boys have no decent drag car bodies left to build,...All of the heavy ass Monte Carlo’s and Malibu’s have long since met their fate between the jaws of the crusher” I jab at him.
He agreed.
Ive known this guy since 1990. He was the very first drag race I ever had in this city. We’ve been friends and not-so much friends over the last 3 decades. He is a classic case of how badly life can change for you when you become addicted to this hobby.

He was married. ( Now he’s not). I remember him telling me that his wife did what he told her to do ( She also did what he didn’t tell her to do, including sleeping with other guys while he was at the track 3 nights a week). Of the three boys he always had at the track with him, at least one of them is now alienated. A product of the broken marriage. He has just about every friend we both have, but because he doesn’t listen and learn,....has managed to alienate himself from most of them.
( i.e. He had me wire one of his race cars for him back in the day..Back then, (1991) the guy that used to do it for him was direct wiring high current draw devices—- fans, fuel pumps, nitrous solenoids, etc.... directly off of a toggle or micro switch, and running the wires through what ever hole he could find between the firewall and the device without a grommet.
When I entered the picture, the wiring i did for him had 12v relays on every device that drew more current than you’d want to run though a toggle alone. If a wire went through metal, it was protected. I also ended up plumbing his fuel system for him, and introduced him to a fuel system that used a return regulator instead of the Holley blue pump he had been using)

After doing that for free, When I saw him the next time, I find that his previous guy had had his way with the work I did. The relays to the nitrous and fuel system has been unplugged, and the switches were again direct wired to the devices, The mallory return regulator I had installed, had a spark plug screwed into the return line as a plug, and he had resorted back to using it as a non return regulator. His previous guy was there at the track next to him and when I asked him why the hell he had unwired all of my stuff, his “expert” told me that I had over complicated the whole thing, that it was working fine the way they had done it before and he had taken the liberty of “simplifying“ it again.
I was so mad, I told him never to ask me to do another thing for him again. And walked away.

In his defense, he wasn’t the reason his other guy dumbed down what I had done,.....his expert didn’t understand it either.

So,..that’s how this guy burned his bridges...He has people do stuff for him, but because he doesn’t care to learn why they do it this way or that way, he’s clueless. and if he needs to go it alone.....he’s fckd.
He‘s had the same guys that both he and I have trusted over the years for chassis fabrication/ tuning/engine work/tuning, nitrous/ turbo setup, transmission, electronics,... everything.....And burned through each one of them. He had a guy I didn’t know from jack with him yesterday that was his new expert...

The car was badly needing paint. You could tell where he had done the work, and where he didn’t. The fiberglass hood didn’t fit properly, and they couldn’t get the dzus fastener to lock closed after showing me the LSx engine that was naturally under the hood.( his work) Since he’s done it so many times, the chassis itself was nicely constructed, ( him again) But as soon as he opened the door to the interior and showed me the nicely done race car interior, and well laid out electronics,...I knew he didn’t do it.

I tell him I gotta get back to work, He tells me to call him. I tell him i’ve always had his number in my phone, and we part ways.
I go back to work, then home to my wife...and he goes to the track, and back home to an empty house.
 
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Rdub6

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Sucks that there are too many stories like that.
That’s why I got up at 8 - met up with a buddy with his ‘13 GT - took a nice cruise (since all the damn shows are cancelled) and I’m back home by 11 for Sunday with the family!
Gotta be a balance or it ain’t gonna work!!
 
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Balance is key. I wish my son had shown more interest growing up. He sort of does now, but is 19 and between being gone to college (maybe, COVID anyone) and wanting to see all of his friends when he is home, he is not around enough to do anything.

From what you describe, I am surprised he hasn't burned a car down. But I imagine, he probably had lot's of 'worthless a$$ switches keep burning up" acting as a fuse to prevent full meltdown.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Well sht.

The old cams are out, the new cams are in...
But the exhaust cam will have to come back out. According to BC, the cam is ground on the same stock base circle that the stock cams are, and I shouldn’t have to re-shim.
Not exactly the case with this cam. I made sure that the stock exhaust cam clearance was at .010 when i did that early this year. BC calls for the same clearance as the factory spec...but this cam is sitting at .013. Now i don’t know how much that’ll affect things, and whether or not i’ll have to shim the cam .003, but one things for sure...I can’t put it back together.
The intake cam is close. The spec calls for .008. Most are at .009. one is at .010, and one is at .007. If that was the case with the exhaust cam, it’d be back together.

Using the right flex plate on the transmission will require that the converter feet are pushed out towards the ring gear to match the larger bolt circle. Additionally because it’s a different offset from the back of the crank-i-doo, it’ll also require some significantly longer spacers than what I had before ( I’m telling them to add .330” to the feet....I had . 250” spacers on there before. ( remember, the other flexplate was backspaced off the of the crank further).

If i’m measuring sht right this time, the converter will pull out of the transmission .125. The pilot hub will get extended to off set the foot spacing on the converter so that it’ll ride in the tail of the crank like it’s supposed to. it’s all boxed up, and ready to ship, hopefully they’ll be able to get to it soon.

By the time that’s back the cam clearance issue will be behind me...and it’ll go back together..
Then,...I’ll find a tall tree and drag that bitch up into it....and see if it’ll fall out of it.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
You can just ignore me...There’s always that.
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In some circumstances, it's the only way you can be tolerated.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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Noobz347 said:
In some circumstances, it's the only way you can be tolerated.
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You gotta take the good with the bad I guess.

I could decide to just arbitrarily post a weekly How much hp thread...
and do it over, and over, and over...........
 
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Noobz347

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CarMichael Angelo said:
You gotta take the good with the bad I guess.

I could decide to just arbitrarily post a weekly How much hp thread...
and do it over, and over, and over...........
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Meh... Too 'Belly-button'.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Noobz347 said:
Meh... Too 'Belly-button'.
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Just giving you the same reason to ignore the same threads I do..
 
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