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Foxslider

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Some good real world info tho on the JZ. Out of my ballpark. Im a cheapie, so pushing a 302 stockblock to little under max ish (400) makes most sense. Though the JZ sounds cool and is unique, too costly for me. Still way badass though.

I remember seeing some JZ 3.4 stroker at a toyota dealership in japan for like 60-70k on some youtubers channel. Stroker kit like 15k. Or the shortblock was it? Coming at like 30k. (Stroked/forged built shortblock). Crazy.
 

General karthief

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I keep thinking about that poor lonely ljk sitting in the back seat patiently waiting for a ride.
 

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So, why is it "down to the wire?"

Cruising the coast?
 

CarMichael Angelo

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droopie85gt said:
So, why is it "down to the wire?"

Cruising the coast?
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Yes. I missed it last year because the old engine had water in the oil. We've had reservations for the last 4 days of the event since April. Now that I Potentially have a running combo, itll just be a matter of getting it running right, charging the AC system, and making some power ( Just in case I see Craig down there again, and we have a second tempt of fate, trying to see how blatant I can be by drag racing in front of the cops)
 
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View: https://youtu.be/9kx9nsezL_s?t=1251
 

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In Mike's absence this morning, I'll paraphrase his answer.

NO, says the finger!
 

Olivethefet

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I like the 1UZ. I dont think Mike needs one though. Maybe if the 2JZ takes a dump in a few years.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Two weeks ago I did a compression test on this engine right before pulling it. I used a HF gauge set that I had bought but never used before.
Every cylinder was exactly the same, but they all seemed really low. ( 120 p.s.i.). I came on here bitching about the possible cause, and my concern over how it could be a number of things,....but in the end did nothing to look into it further, orcome up with a plan of action to check, or remedy that.

I ignored it.

Since I’m now in a holding pattern waiting on the converter to get here, that leaves me with idle time. Idle time is the worst possible thing you can dump on me, because idle time means that I’ll sit and read,...or watch,...or read and watch way too many things about way too many possible issues that I may, or may not have to worry about.

Which brings me around to what I think is very low Cold cranking compression for this engine. There are several Youtube vids out there to balance that out,.....Multiple JDM importers posting vids of their engines, sitting on pallets in warehouses, displaying for all the world to see that every single cylinder on the engines that they running that test on have 175 pounds of cold cranking pressure...Which puts my engine 50 psi lower in every cylinder than the ones they’re showing me.

So,....I watch this last night and go to bed...I get awakened at 4AM....It’s my buddy. How in the fck can my engine be this low, and not show the typical signs of blow by that has to be happening if my cylinder seal is so freakin bad that I’m 50psi lower than any other stock 50k mile version of this engine? How is there not any smoke, or blow by vapor, or the kind of environmental oil disaster after a hard run that was always dripping out of the puke tank on the old engine?

Short of performing another compression test with a different gauge, I do have another option.....I can try to do a leak down test with my home made, handy dandy leak down tester.

Since #1 was at TDC, I decided what the hell...I put 100 psi into the cylinder, and the leak down gauge reads 94......
If it can be trusted, it’s telling me I have 6% leakage on a cold engine.
In other words...There ain’t sht wrong with this engine....And if anything is wrong,....it’s the piece of sht Harbor Freight compression tester.

So,...I’m letting this issue ride...MOF,....i’m just gonna say that it’s a “ non-issue”.

And.....since I can’t do the things I want to do, I‘m taking the opportunity to do the things I wouldn’t do if I had the things I want.

In other words,..I’m fixing sht that I’d probably let slide if the Converter was here..

When the OG monster engine was first running in its turbocharged version, I had one Magnaflow straight through SS muffler and a catylitic converter. It was loud, but not overly obnoxious. ( as I recall anyway)
When I got the wild hair to convert the thing over to N/A, and the turbo came off the engine, the thing was way too loud. The turbo was adding some degree of noise “muffling”, but now that was gone. I added another muffler to try and quiet the thing down to a tolerable level ( for me). After all,....I wanted to be able to hear the LJK when he was talking to me.

Later that year, when I added the turbo back to the engine, I couldn’t be bothered to take the extra muffler back off..and then,....Well,....we all know what happened to the OG Monster shortly after that.

When I got this thing running with the 2j, having both Mufflers was just too quiet, so I removed the extra muffler. However, Removing it has now resulted in an exhaust note that just sucks. It kinda makes a Blllaaaahhhh...kind of noise.

I ain’t having none of that.

So,..I have this Three bears kinda thing going on..Having both mufflers installed is kinda like Mama bear,...the exhaust note is way too soft..Having the one round muffler is like Papa bear,..cause it’s way too hard. The leaves me with the oval muffler baby bear,....hopefully it’ll be just right. And instead of Blllaaahhh,...maybe it’ll be more like Blluuuurrrr....
All of this to say, that I cut up the exhaust system today, so I could put the oval muffler back in place. What you can’t see is the tube that I made to replace the round muffler,..it’s gonna have to wait till I get everything back in place so I can make it permanent.
 
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You need to stop feeding the demon after 7PM. You might both get more sleep that way.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Noobz347 said:
You need to stop feeding the demon after 7PM. You might both get more sleep that way.
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It wouldn’t matter....It is always a matter of what I see or read...and that can be anytime of day.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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I hate not being in control. It has only been a week since I sent that converter up to PTC, but to me that seems like for freakin ever. ( Or....has it been two weeks )
Yep,...two freakin weeks..Sent it on Monday 6/22, it arrived 6/23 at 11 am. They didn’t even open the box till that Friday at the end of the week.

Its this personality flaw that won’t allow me to wait that causes me to spend money on “ alternative measures”.
Had this been a normal business as usual year, I may have done that, and purchased a 4l80e, the converter, the adapter, and the valve body reprogramming kit just so I wouldn’t have to wait on somebody else to “get around to looking at my letter“ that was inside the box that had my morphadite, “hybrid” torque converter in it.

But this isn’t a normal year now is it?

So,....I’m relegated to waiting...something that I don’t mind saying that I absolutely suck at.

At work I’ve sold a customer a used M6. A car that we had to get from a sister store in CA. That was a week ago too. The transport company hasnt even slotted/scheduled or is planning to attempt a pick up of that vehicle anytime soon...( something about all of the independent truck drivers going out of business, others not wanting to go into a market where riots are going on, and others not wanting to go into virus hotspots... blah-blah-blah) in other words......you’re just gonna have to wait you old assed mutherfcker...

Fck that. I get online, I find airfare to fly my ass from Birmingham to Lax for 199.00. Three daysof driving, food and gas, and three overnight stays in 100.00 a night hotels, and I’m back in Birmingham with the car for the same 1300.00 it woulda cost us to have it shipped...And I’d do it in a minute..
But they won’t let me. They tell me that me, and my customer are just gonna have to wait.

Dirty Sonsabitches.
 
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droopie85gt

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WTF? Once I had sold 2 Canon large format copy/plot/scan systems. Our stupid ass company had 2 scanners in Tulsa and the 2 printers in Memphis. It was going to take 3 weeks and cost $750 to ship to Memphis. So I got up drove from Memphis to Tulsa, said hey to the gang, loaded up the 2 scanners and drove straight back to Memphis. 6.5 hrs each way, plus the 1.5 I sat on I40 in Little Rock because of an overturned semi.

The district manager said you can't do that, because we can't pay you to drive that much in a day. I said, don't worry, when the clock strikes 10 hours, I'll note the miles and cut the mileage off. The rest is on me. I installed those 2 systems over the next 2 days and got them invoiced by Dec. 31. And I didn't even get commission. I think I got a $100 spiff on each one. But I took care of my customers.

Companies always look for ANOTHER excuse to NOT provide customer service because it might cost money.
 

Adieu

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CarMichael Angelo said:
At work I’ve sold a customer a used M6.
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You must not like that guy.
 

CarMichael Angelo

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74stang2togo said:
You must not like that guy.
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He’s the one that had to have it....I’m just an enabler.
 
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  1. See what the Old Man is Grumpin' about today - Check
  2. Provide timely but ambiguous references to some small detail of dialogue - Check
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Noobz347 said:


  1. See what the Old Man is Grumpin' about today - Check
  2. Provide timely but ambiguous references to some small detail of dialogue - Check
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What are steps 1, and 2? Right now it’s nothing, and nothing ( er).
 

LILCBRA

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I think step 1 was picking his nose and step 2 was...uh...

Of course it may not be in that order, and it may only be one or the other....twice....
 

General karthief

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CarMichael Angelo said:
What are steps 1, and 2? Right now it’s nothing, and nothing ( er).
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#2
See what silliness Karthief is up to - Check
 

Noobz347

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1. Was the Funny Picture Thread. Duh
 

CarMichael Angelo

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Another day off,....Still no converter,......another day wasted,....nothing to do but lay around and mope.
 
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