Of course he's not as good as Brady, otherwise he wouldn't be a backup now would he.Sure the timing is not as good, but he sure did pretty good today didn't he? He sure wasn't hindering your team much, if at all.
You better face it, if your team continues to play like they did today you are in for a LONG season. You're also facing a major problem with the possibility of losing Brady for a long period of time if not the entire season.
Oh, and if you really want to get into a dick waving contest about this, I'll call your bluff. You're a good guy Redline, and a true football fan but I've read alot of your posts and your football ANALYSIS is sorely lacking at times. If you want to get into truely breaking down games, I'll show you what it means to KNOW football.
Easy. The hit and the way his knee bent is consistent with what usually turns out to be a PCL or ACL injury. It could be a simple sprain or it could be torn. If it's just a sprain or something less he could miss anywhere up to 4-6 games but if it's torn his season is pretty much over. And I'm sure you understand that players can, and routinely do, walk off under their own power with torn ACLs and PCLs. Hell, in 2000 Olandis Gary finished the whole second half of a game with what turned out to be a torn ACL.So now brady is lost for the season according to you or a very long time? Id like to know how you have come to this conclusion considering he will not have a MRI until monday and for the fact he walked off the field on his own. Knowing the Patriots and Belichick they probably benched him for the game and iced the knee to prevent any swelling. I'll be shocked if its anything that last more then even the next game.
Is your reading comprehension that bad?Ive been watching Brady since he took over for the team. There are very few QB's in the NFL who can lead an offense like him. Hes a huge part in how everything works and clicks on the offense. Sure you can throw in Cassel and he can move the chains and score some points but belive me Its not the same.
Of course they can turn it around, hence why I said "IF your team continues to play that way." I don't remember that game against the Dolphins or the circumstances around it, but that has no bearing on the Pats play today, which was medicore at best.Ive also been watching the Patriots since I was in High School and Ive seen them over come tons of obstacles so don't think that just b/c they have a close game against Kansas City that it is some indication that the team is some how in trouble. On their second Superbowl run they also lost to the 1-15 Dolphins in the regular season and went on to beat the Eagles in the Superbowl so what does a close game w/ a suck team really tell you? Nothing at all.
Alright. Name your terms.So by all means school me in the art of football and tell me the Patriots fate since you seem to be such a expert on it.
Who might your team be?.. Since you seem to have such a big window to be able to speak about things like this.
Of course they can turn it around, hence why I said "IF your team continues to play that way." I don't remember that game against the Dolphins or the circumstances around it, but that has no bearing on the Pats play today, which was medicore at best.
Alright. Name your terms.
That was last year. And again, different circumstances around different games. Today was simple, your team came out flat against one of the worst teams in the NFL and barely won.Are you kidding me?.. Seriously?.. Get real, man. New England destroyed almost everyone in the league last year, but BARELY beat a terrible Ravens team and a terrible Eagles team (both using backup QB's).
Thats not what I said at all and you know it. Quit trying to twist my words.I guess having a game where you don't annihilate somebody is bad and your season is ruined..
We're talking about the Pats, so what difference does it make who my team is...unless you want to deflect the conversation away from their poor play and onto the merits of my team.Who might your team be?.. Since you seem to have such a big window to be able to speak about things like this.
I didn't say "turn the season around" I said "turn it around" ie their crappy play. Totally different things there.Turn the season around. Its week #1 and they came away with a win.
If they continue playing the way they did today they have very little chance of making the playoffs.Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I stated what it was I said tell me the Patriots fate since your such an expert.
That was last year. And again, different circumstances around different games. Today was simple, your team came out flat against one of the worst teams in the NFL and barely won.
Thats not what I said at all and you know it. Quit trying to twist my words.
We're talking about the Pats, so what difference does it make who my team is...unless you want to deflect the conversation away from their poor play and onto the merits of my team.
That was last year. And again, different circumstances around different games. Today was simple, your team came out flat against one of the worst teams in the NFL and barely won.
Thats not what I said at all and you know it. Quit trying to twist my words.
We're talking about the Pats, so what difference does it make who my team is...unless you want to deflect the conversation away from their poor play and onto the merits of my team.
I want to know who your team is so you can give me your expert opinion on them and how they will do this year. Also since you opened your mouth you have yet to answer my now twice asked question of the Patriots fate this season since you act as though you have it all figured out.
You got off on the wrong foot on this thread and it has nothing to do w/ your analysis of the Patriots but here is why. Anyone that claims to know anything about football knows that every team in the NFL will have Up games and Down games. No matter how good a team is some games they just come out and don't play as good as they should. Does that mean they will play like that all year? Of course not. But this is what gets me. Everyone here in the NFL thread will agree that based on their teams first game of the season there is room for improvement. This is the first game that many starters across the league have played in. Everyone in here knows that you cannot base your teams performance for the season just on one game and even less on the first game of the season but for some reason you think the Patriots are backed into a corner b/c they had a close game w/ Kansas City. The Patriots have a lot of close game w/ lots of different teams, its nothing new when your a regular Patriots follower. I Enjoy blow outs as much as the next guy but what really matters to me is the W in the colum. Thy will make the necessary adjustments for next week, today for me was by no means an OH NO game b/c it was close w/ Kansas City. So keep thinking your enlightment some how is impressive to anyone on here but in reality if your basing a teams season on one game and that one game being week 1 it only shows how little you really understand about the NFL
PS: Its ok Tampa Bay will get better soon as well. Or perhaps Jacksonville
Irrelevant. My team hasn't played their game yet and even if they had it has no bearing on the Patroits play. You can keep trying to deflect but it only makes you look more foolish.I want to know who your team is so you can give me your expert opinion on them and how they will do this year.
I've already answered your question...twice...but here is a third. If the Patroits continue to play like they did today they will have be lucky to make the playoffs.Also since you opened your mouth you have yet to answer my now twice asked question of the Patriots fate this season since you act as though you have it all figured out.
Where did I disagree with this?You got off on the wrong foot on this thread and it has nothing to do w/ your analysis of the Patriots but here is why. Anyone that claims to know anything about football knows that every team in the NFL will have Up games and Down games.
Again, I haven't disputed this.No matter how good a team is some games they just come out and don't play as good as they should. Does that mean they will play like that all year? Of course not.
And once again, not disputing it. But given the sample that we have for analysis, the Patriots do NOT look good.But this is what gets me. Everyone here in the NFL thread will agree that based on their teams first game of the season there is room for improvement. This is the first game that many starters across the league have played in. Everyone in here knows that you cannot base your teams performance for the season just on one game and even less on the first game of the season but for some reason you think the Patriots are backed into a corner b/c they had a close game w/ Kansas City.
Again, you're just making yourself look ignorant. At no point have I "based a teams season on one game" but rather provided my analysis and opinions on that one game. Cry foul all you want because you are a Pats homer and can't look at it objectively, but the point remains your team gave a poor showing today.The Patriots have a lot of close game w/ lots of different teams, its nothing new when your a regular Patriots follower. I Enjoy blow outs as much as the next guy but what really matters to me is the W in the colum. Thy will make the necessary adjustments for next week, today for me was by no means an OH NO game b/c it was close w/ Kansas City. So keep thinking your enlightment some how is impressive to anyone on here but in reality if your basing a teams season on one game and that one game being week 1 it only shows how little you really understand about the NFL
It does make a difference. If you say the Giants, then I will dismiss everything you say. They looked mediocre and only managed 1 TD against a terrible washington team, and even got shutout in the second half with their starting "SB MVP QB" who supposedly "turned the corner"
It's only 1 game and their defense will only get better this year.
Again, you're just making yourself look ignorant. At no point have I "based a teams season on one game" but rather provided my analysis and opinions on that one game. Cry foul all you want because you are a Pats homer and can't look at it objectively, but the point remains your team gave a poor showing today.
Then that would be pretty damn ignorant wouldn't it? The only way you could possibly dismiss what I say is if I gave incorrect or contradictory analysis on my team. My team has no basis on how correct my analysis is unless you can prove I'm breaking down their play differently then I am someone else.
Irrelevant. My team hasn't played their game yet .
I played football from the time I was 8 years old until my senior year of high school and have helped coach teams from the peewee level up to the high school level. I've also spent time with a couple former NFL players and the son of an NFL defensive coordinator.Eric your young and have a lot to learn about life and even more about football.
The only thing I'm basing off this 1 game is my analysis of this 1 game. Not sure why you are having so much trouble understanding this.I can see taking a teams play over a 6-7 wk period but basing anything off one game even more so in week 1 is just pointless.
How many times do I have to say that I don't dispute this before you stop parroting on about it?There are many good and bad things I can say about a lot of teams that have played so far today and as far as tomorrow but it does not mean those things wont change by the next week.
You really need to take some reading comprehension lessons. Seriously I'm not trying to be a dick about it but you're taking my breakdown of the Pats game today and trying to make it into me writing them off for the entire season.The Patriots have not become the most winning team in Football for the past several years w/ out knowing how to make adjustments when they need to. There were "key" mistakes made today that will be corrected, there were players who have not had much playing time who will learn as it goes on. You can say what you want but your the only one making yourself look foolish by putting so much emphasis on a week 1 game.
Don't look now Charger fans, but.. The Panthers are winning in SD with 6:30 left in the 4th.
Go Panthers Go!
Well, you could possibly be a homer and give a contradictory analysis on your own team if you would say who they were instead of skirting the issue and dodging questions. For all I know you could be a Giants fan and think you just had a solid win and a great game from your team, which would be absolutely ignorant to think.
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The only thing I'm basing off this 1 game is my analysis of this 1 game. Not sure why you are having so much trouble understanding this.
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My team is no secret, I've discussed it with you and Jason in the past before, but it's not relevant to this discussion.So its either Indy, Chicago, Denver, Oakland, Minnesota or Green bay.
Whats the problem with saying what your team is you go for in an NFL Thread? What is there to hide? Do you think people willat you b/c you like a suck team? I don't bash people based on who they like for a team, I just dislike some teams more then others.
But your lack of disclosure of your team in a thread that is about football only limits your reason for being here for the reason of starting problems b/c it seems to be your main goal at the moment.
I picked them to win this week they better not let me down. Still a close game w/ much time left.
Feel free to do some looking. The team I like is no secret and we've discussed it before.
Regardless, my team has not played yet so there is no analysis for me to give yet. Be advised though, if you want to make this about my analysis you better come with actual prove of me being incorrect/homer and not just "z0mg you like them teh pats are soooo much better!!!111!"
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