1990Coupe *OFFICIAL* 2008 NFL thread
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Son of a ... He won 4?
Was it his naked backside movie that got you?
I'm actually old enough to have seen him play.
Bluffing024
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Yes, he won four. I would also like to note that I wouldn't trade Big Ben for 3 Eli's. The ONLY thing that kid has going for him is hsi brother. Maybe if they hang around a lot in the off-season he will learn a little.
I wouln't make that trade either. Big Ben was a total flop in his Superbowl appearance. Eli won the Superbowl MVP. Not saying Big Ben is not a very good QB, just sayin' keep him. I wouldn't swap him for Eli. Yes, Eli's brother is a top notch QB.
Bluffing024
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Ben 2007 QB Rating 104.1 Career 92.5
Eli 2007 QB Rating 73.9 Career 73.4
You keep telling yourself he's good
Eli 2007 QB Rating 73.9 Career 73.4
You keep telling yourself he's good
Ben 2007 QB Rating 104.1 Career 92.5
Eli 2007 QB Rating 73.9 Career 73.4
You keep telling yourself he's good
Yes, I know Ben's stats are better. I'd rather have the one who can win under pressure. That would be your current Superbowl MVP.
Bluffing024
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I don't want to bash Ben. No matter how many stats you present, I would NOT trade Eli for Ben. Never. Sorry, that's just the way it is. Be happy with Roethlisberger.
Bluffing024
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Then you aren't too smart. If you are able to trade for a better QB and you don't then that is dumb. If I could have Brady play for the Steelers that would be awesome.
CBus 06 GT
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I'll toss my hat in the ring as a Brown's fan. Don't really follow the team too much though. It sounds like we should be good, but ever since Modell took the Browns v1.0 to Baltimore, I've paid way more attention to college football (go Buckeyes!). I've never really gotten into the Browns v2.0 since I thought from day 1 that Tim Couch was not a good choice. A spread QB who rarely threw a ball 15 yards past the line of scrimmage is not who you build an NFL franchise around. It will be interesting to see how the QB situation works out this year. Will DA stay healthy or will Quinn get his shot? If Quinn get's his shot, will he live up to the hype?
Bluffing024
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Actually, he said he doesn't follow them. 
Which is probably good because they will just disappoint if you expect them to win the division. 
Which is probably good because they will just disappoint if you expect them to win the division. 
He prefers that team that got smoked last season in the BCS championship game by a team with 2 losses and didn't deserve to be there.Another Browns fan
Thought I was the only one on here
I hope Parcells knows what he is doing down in Miami. I know I've hated about every move he has made so far.
CBus 06 GT
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Actually, he said he doesn't follow them.
I didn't say I don't follow them at all, just not like I do the Buckeyes. If the Browns start off hot, I'll jump back on the bandwagon. Even though I live in Columbus now, I did grow up 20 minutes from the old Municipal Stadium and was a die hard Browns fan until that fateful day in 1995 that broke my heart at the tender age of 20. That hurt more than any woman will ever be able to hurt me!
CBus 06 GT
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He prefers that team that got smoked last season in the BCS championship game by a team with 2 losses and didn't deserve to be there.
I hope Parcells knows what he is doing down in Miami. I know I've hated about every move he has made so far.
Yup, I prefer the team that backed into the BCS game with 1 loss and was ranked 7th at the end of their regular season while your team was still #1.
I'm looking forward to October 26th, Giants VS. Steelers.
The wife & family are HUGE Steelers fans....myself, pure Giants.
Should be fun in the house
I'll be there to watch it
Ben 2007 QB Rating 104.1 Career 92.5
Eli 2007 QB Rating 73.9 Career 73.4
You keep telling yourself he's good
Andddd that 73.9 won the superbowl.
Last time I checked, getting to that game was extremely hard.. and once your there, its only that ONE game that DOES matter
I would not use SB42 as a reason to call eli clutch..
As I said earlier that was the luckiest crap I ever seen in my life. it was more of what the pats did wrong, luck and poor non calls ( sorry mr. vax you can go into denial but it's true) that won that game.. they had eli flustered and throwing bad passes, they just did not pick them.
Not only did eli get lucky but so did the NFL, what a PR disaster it would have been for the patriots to go 19-0 in the very same year they made such a big deal out of spygate.
Sorry gnat fans I take Ben any day in fact after the big two he would be my third choice.
I might end up being wrong, but I see Eli manning as the current generation Drew Bledsoe. A decent average serviceable QB who will retire 10-13 years from now with a slightly below average QB rating.
What will really be a shame is Eli will probably be able to ride below average stats into the HOF because of that one lucky drive..
Think I am lying about the hall go look up broadway joe.. he rode well below average numbers into the hall on one game that all he managed to do was not blow it..
As I said earlier that was the luckiest crap I ever seen in my life. it was more of what the pats did wrong, luck and poor non calls ( sorry mr. vax you can go into denial but it's true) that won that game.. they had eli flustered and throwing bad passes, they just did not pick them.
Not only did eli get lucky but so did the NFL, what a PR disaster it would have been for the patriots to go 19-0 in the very same year they made such a big deal out of spygate.
Sorry gnat fans I take Ben any day in fact after the big two he would be my third choice.
I might end up being wrong, but I see Eli manning as the current generation Drew Bledsoe. A decent average serviceable QB who will retire 10-13 years from now with a slightly below average QB rating.
What will really be a shame is Eli will probably be able to ride below average stats into the HOF because of that one lucky drive..
Think I am lying about the hall go look up broadway joe.. he rode well below average numbers into the hall on one game that all he managed to do was not blow it..
Bluffing024
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Gotta agree, there was a blatant hold that wasn't called. I was screaming about it before the play was over. It was 3rd and 5 with a 1:15 left when the play started, watch #66 of the G-Girls hold onto the defender the entire play.
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Unfortunate but true. I hope he doesn't get in, unless he actually does something worthy of it.
Bluffing024
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Im pretty sure he was clutch throughout all the playoffs my how everyone seems to forget that???
Frozen tundra??
you think all we do is base eli off of that one play??? I dont think so!!!! I'm not saying hes HOF or the best QB evar, im saying he deserves credit for what he did last season no doubt..
I still can't believe you guys all think THAT was a hold!!! I mean usually when something is as blatent as you guys make it is picked up by sports center, or SOMEONE,, NOBODY said it was hold, and its not.. I think the butt-hurt pats fans are still going to cry about one play this entire season
Gotta agree, there was a blatant hold that wasn't called. I was screaming about it before the play was over. It was 3rd and 5 with a 1:15 left when the play started, watch #66 of the G-Girls hold onto the defender the entire play.
Unfortunate but true. I hope he doesn't get in, unless he actually does something worthy of it.
again, you can think it was a hold, but it wasn't..
I guess winning a superbowl and taking a team on an unprecident run through the playoffs, all the road wins, beating the best team in football wasn't enough right??!??!?!?!!
Pretty sure the g-girl offence needed to score points too
18-1 was the result.... That season is over, you guys can come out of your drunken binges after the devistating loss and lets move onto this season. I can almost guarantee you won't have to worry about the Giants this season - well i thought that last year and look what happened
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