I consider myself a decent driver but all I could put down in my car totally stock is a 15.2 and I drove it like I hated it. Exhaust, MAC CAI, and stickier tires brought me to a 14.8 I belive. All that is to that to the 4 tenths are the tires IMO. Then I did pullie's, 3.73's, Auburn HD rear, Seat Delete kit, Spare + carpeting removed, Mickey T's ET Streets, Alum. D/S, 02 PI Intake Man. I dunno I'm hopin for 13's I think I got enough to get me movin pretty quickly. Were gonna find out in a few months. 96 vs a 99 stock it's not gonna be pretty, maybe if u were a 5speed n could shock the tires n get him outta the hole, but your both gonna be puttin off the line. OFF TOPIC can you do the AUTO SHUFFLE IN A MOD CAR? I know the 5.0 guys used to do it?