Camaro - 6,687
Mustang - 3,627
Challenger - 2,040
Im sure we'll see figures drop for the next couple of months due to the time of year.
I think both cars have the same aesthetic issue. Both cars look like the designers were on there A game starting from the front then just said screw it I'm going home by the time they go to the rear, Leaving only the janitor to finish it. Now with that being said Id personal own ether one and have no regrets.
Look at the Camaro next to any other generation FBody and you will quickly see that the GM designers were on anything but their A-Game. The 5th Generation Camaro is one of those cars that looks good when there isn't anything else around it. Get a few cars around it, and it quickly becomes not only comical to look at, but clumsy looking.
And a little bit like a fat cow
The more Camaros I see on the road the less I like about them. Everybody talks about how the ass end of the '10 stang is ugly but the camaro takes the cake.
I got behind one the other day on the highway and it actually took me a min before I realized it was a Camaro. (3 car lenghts behind). Didn't even look like a muscle car, to me it looked more like some kind of bloated GM sedan.
Like someone said earlier in this thread, the sides of the car don't mesh well with the front and the rear of the car. It's kind of like the design attempts to be sleek yet the sides form an edge on all four corners which kills the flow of the car.
The fact that the car dwarfs everything in sight doesn't help either.
It definately has a huge presence on the road but not in a good way.
Luckily for GM most ppl dont think like you.....
Actually, they do. GM needed two bailouts, didn't they? Yeah, they did...
Yea...believe it or not, the Camaro is NOT going to save GM and it's horendous management/design/quality problems.
Man I'm itching to get one of these cars as a fun DD.
Honestly, I think the Camaro's design won't age well AT ALL, and will be very tiring to look at pretty soon. The '05 Mustangs never really got me (kind of the same thing IMO, looked cool when they first came out due to the retro gimmick, but got kind of tiring, although it's a more subdued/timeless design than the over-stated Camaro).
However, right now I'd love to have a Camaro to just beat around in, however two reasons have me considering a Mustang way before it, 1 - Safety (Mustang definitely wins here), and 2 - Interior, the new Mustangs is actually pretty nice, and the Camaro's is a joke. Plus the interior of the Camaro feels way clausterphobic due to those tiny windows.
I still think the 94-98 Mustang is the best modern Stang design yet. I was looking at a clean '98 next to a new 3-Series the other day, and was shocked at how much nicer the Mustang looked. Just a timeless design, the 99's with their sharper/boxier look aren't aging as gracefully IMO, although still not bad. I wish the '05's continued on what the '94 models started, personally.
I think both cars have the same aesthetic issue. Both cars look like the designers were on there A game starting from the front then just said screw it I'm going home by the time they go to the rear, Leaving only the janitor to finish it. Now with that being said Id personal own ether one and have no regrets.
GM made some of the best Muscle Cars of the 60s and 70s, and lest you forget, they also made the Buick Grand National/GNX and 1989 Pontiac Turbo T/A; both of which would smoke your Mustang, and they're over 20 years old.
Oh, and BTW, GM's never had to recall or buy back their vehicles because they haven't made advertised horsepower claims. Yeah, that's right; the 1999 Cobra got recalled and received "the fix" because they didn't make the advertised hp claims, while Mazda (Ford) offered to buy back models of the RX-8 that didn't meet hp claims.
Oh, and another thing. Doesn't GM build the Corvette? Why, yes they do; ALL of which models will tear up ANYTHING Ford has to offer, including the GT500. Go ahead, bring up the Ford GT from 2004-2006. The Ford GT was undoubtedly one of the most highly advanced cars to come out of Ford, yet with all that technology, they barely stayed ahead of the Viper and C6 Z06.
So, all being said, that's okay that GM sucks. They still build the best domestic sports car on the planet. They also build (not for long...) the best sport sedan on the planet (G8). Their trucks are rated as some of the best trucks built today, along with their SUVs.
I don't think (the majority of...) GM cars suck, I think their management sucks. Ford wouldn't do any better with a bunch of idiots running the company.
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