Maybe I'm overlooking or misunderstanding something, but I was under the impression that we were talking about stock engines? In my understanding, bolt-ons still equate to a stock engine...
How quickly this conversation got way off topic
With a full exhaust Lid and Tune...most LS1s are putting 330-340RWhp, dipping in the mid to high 12s easy. No one ever claims "Hey these are my stock motored Times"
I cant stay on conversation....im always being called out
I hope not..... Call Bull **** on that
^^^ Great point indeed. True are cars are only as fast as its operators !!! WELL SAID
I think the biggest arguement is the Capability factor. What can the car actually do...thats the whole argument from how ive seen it. Honestly unless youve seen certain times out of cars then I guess its all speculation....especially if you doubt it eh.
I'm sure a 94-95 GT can hit 12's with bolt ons. 5.0s starve for air, isn't heads and a intake manifold considered bolt ons? Because I would think with good heads/intake manifold combo and the supporting mods those cars with hit high 12's. If you want to know more about what 5.0s are capable of then go ask around in the 5.0 forum. Alot of guys over here myself included have never owned a 5.0 Mustang.
From what I've seen at the track, LS1 Camaros can run low 13's. Most drivers hit mid 13's and are a drivers race with the 05+ GT's. Or the 99+ Cobras, the LS1 has a little bit of a edge over the 99-01 Cobra in the 1/4. The LT1's I've seen hit low 14's and I've heard a couple of times of people hitting 13.9. I hear the same about the 99-04 GT's, but I hear about them hitting 13.9's more often. My old 01 with flowmasters and a K&N filter did 14.1with a 2.4 60' time.
SS02, it's cool if you come on here posting about Camaros and such, but sometimes I feel like you might be doing it to just get Mustang guys over here upset? Maybe I'm wrong and just maybe you come across like that. But I personally don't have any problem with you. But I just wanted say, since Camaro guys are always talking about how the Mustang is a little bit behind the Camaro that the 03-04 Cobras are still faster then the brand new Camaro. So this argument can go both ways.
I'm sure a 94-95 GT can hit 12's with bolt ons. 5.0s starve for air, isn't heads and a intake manifold considered bolt ons? Because I would think with good heads/intake manifold combo and the supporting mods those cars with hit high 12's. If you want to know more about what 5.0s are capable of then go ask around in the 5.0 forum. Alot of guys over here myself included have never owned a 5.0 Mustang.
From what I've seen at the track, LS1 Camaros can run low 13's. Most drivers hit mid 13's and are a drivers race with the 05+ GT's. Or the 99+ Cobras, the LS1 has a little bit of a edge over the 99-01 Cobra in the 1/4. The LT1's I've seen hit low 14's and I've heard a couple of times of people hitting 13.9. I hear the same about the 99-04 GT's, but I hear about them hitting 13.9's more often. My old 01 with flowmasters and a K&N filter did 14.1with a 2.4 60' time.
SS02, it's cool if you come on here posting about Camaros and such, but sometimes I feel like you might be doing it to just get Mustang guys over here upset? Maybe I'm wrong and just maybe you come across like that. But I personally don't have any problem with you. But I just wanted say, since Camaro guys are always talking about how the Mustang is a little bit behind the Camaro that the 03-04 Cobras are still faster then the brand new Camaro. So this argument can go both ways.
Bud, you need to read the entire forums. Im the one being called out, not the other way around. Just read a couple pages
As far as the bolt ons go, yeah , I guess you can consider Heads and Intake a bolton, but dont consider it "Stock Motored" like what this conversation is about to begin with. I could see his argument if he said " Stock Shortblock", then that would imply the above mentioned. With a H/I Full Exhaust Gears, Slicks, Suspension....sure, Ill submit that the 94 can run high 12s
"If I didn't see it, it didn't happen."
This is the best qoote of the whole 6 page thread, I don't really think anyone is calling out SS02 [o.k. except me.lol] we are just disagreeing with him because [we have never seen it] but he keeps insisting the we believe it so now we have 6 pages of yes they do no they don't..
But like he said in the begining this will more then likely turn into a 20 page war.
This thread is going no-where fast.
Flame session.
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