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32 valve heads for our cars???

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Has anyone ever heard of these heads??? http://www.araoengineering.com/Ford/frdsmb.htm
It sounds almost too good to be true! Granted these heads are ridiculously expensive, they may be worth it some day down the road if they can really make the numbers they say, over 400cfm at 600" lift!!!!! tell me what ya think or if ya have ever heard of anyone running these.
 
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noone to my knowledge on this site has them. there was one guy that was getting a set, but waited like 2 years for them. he never reported back if he got them.

the theory is sound. i would like a pair.
 

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Those heads have been "around" for some time and pop up every now and then.

Like the poppet/ball valve thingie heads that dont have a cam or valves you just dont seem to see or hear about them anywere.
 

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Run um...I'm curious
 

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bimmertech said:
noone to my knowledge on this site has them. there was one guy that was getting a set, but waited like 2 years for them. he never reported back if he got them.

the theory is sound. i would like a pair.
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From a poster on Corral .....

I had a go around with "Russ" at ARAO a couple years back. I had ordered a set for 4k and sent him 1/2 down when he said he could deliver "in a couple weeks". Well weeks turned to 4 months. He dodged my phone calls for a couple more months before I sent a lawyer to shake him up. 9 months after I sent the money I got my money back. It only cost me $450.00 in lawyer fees to get my money back.

Just for fun I called to inquire on ordering a set a few weeks ago. "A couple weeks" is still his line.

He will take your money, use it as long as possible, and give you the run-around. To my knowlege he has yet to deliver a set of FORD heads. One of the Mustang magazines announced a test of these heads for the next issue- they never got them.

Buyer BEWARE!!!!

Bill
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dang thats a real bummer. That would be such a awesome idea and would have made for a sweat n/a motor. I thought this would really have been something really wicked and unique. Oh well i guess theres always airflow research.
 

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Hmmm .....



How about a rotary valve setup?!!!







 

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wow, that's interesting! nice find, Justin
 

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SeventyMach1 said:
Hmmm .....
How about a rotary valve setup?!!!

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i contacted those guys a long time ago about getting a set and they said they were not in a position to sell them to the general public yet. that was probably 3 years ago now. they can turn over 10,000 rpms!

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=378968&highlight=coates
 

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doesn't brodix make a 4 valve head for the 5.0?
 

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it's a wonder he hasn't sold any heads...

that website is a complete POS
 

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blksn955.o said:
Like the poppet/ball valve thingie heads that dont have a cam or valves you just dont seem to see or hear about them anywere.
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FYI, poppet valves are what we have, as far as the ball/rotary valve thing.
http://www.coatesengine.com/
 
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hmmm....I kinda like that rotary valve idea....wonder how well it works on our cars...or if it does work on ours.

soo...someone wanna test it out?
 

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illwood said:
FYI, poppet valves are what we have, as far as the ball/rotary valve thing.
http://www.coatesengine.com/
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D'oh brain . Thanks those Coates were the ones I was ref. too anyway. Neat-O head idea...would love to see a real world vid of someone who has them.
 

SeventyMach1

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A little OT ....



Ford is now doing research on solenoid actuated valve systems. With the flip of a switch, you can completely change your cam, lol (or what would be). From grocery getter to track king. Now that's not their purpose in the design .... but that's for sure what I would use it for. Imagine sitting at a stop light beside of your typical ricer ... or Camaro ... and all of a sudden you start to really thump.


Also, there are some people out there working on camless engines .... such as this setup based off of "exhaust actuated valves".... http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Camless_20engine
 

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didnt ford have a production 4 valve pushrod motor in the 60's? a 4xx c.i. motor? i could be way off but i could have sworn they put it in something back then...a limited shinoda mustang or something? (shinoda was the chevy designer hired by ford to produce a few cars right?) by now im either amazingly right, or look like a damn fool
 

SeventyMach1

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You're right. He did the Sting Ray & Mako Shark Vettes ..... then on to Ford for the Boss Stangs.


I have no clue about the 4V PR engine's, though.
 
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