347 Oiling questions

WhiteDevil

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So im still getting parts together for my 347 stroker thats coming together. I had some questions about how i should run my oiling set up. Like what kind of pump? Ford Racing High volume good? Also do i need an aftermarket oil pan? Or should i run my stocker? Are there aftermarket pans that will fit in with the stock K? Thanks guys
 
There ARE oil pans that will fit over the stock K. Which ones, I have no clue. I wouldn't get a high volume pump with a 5 quart pan. In the upper RPM's there is a chance you'll suck the pan dry.

I'd look more for a stock blueprinted pump if you're that worried about it. If it was my 347, I'd be using stock pan and pump, but that's just me...

Joe
 
I use a stock pan on my stock block 347. IMO no reason to use an expensive pan. I use a melling M68 pump. I let my builder pick that out, i'm not sure if its a high volume or not (not high pressure)

Heres my engine showing my stock pan painted gray :)
 
M68 is stock pump. That is what I have.

Using a bigger pump lets you have more oil to circulate thru the engine...kind of a form of dilluting dirt into more oil so to say...
 
5spd GT said:
M68 is stock pump. That is what I have.

Theres a few different varieties of melling M68 pumps. Theres the standard replacement for just over $20 and the high performance one for just over $30. I just went through my Emails with Rick and it looks like I have the high performance one :nice: I'll have to ask him to be sure. Its a high volume, standard pressure. Hopefully thats what I have.
 
By the way, WhiteDevil, I also use a motorsport hardened oil pump shaft which I recommend over the arp. Have your builder set the tollerances with the distributer gear.
 
Grn92LX said:
By the way, WhiteDevil, I also use a motorsport hardened oil pump shaft which I recommend over the arp. Have your builder set the tollerances with the distributer gear.
That sounds good. I actually plan on building this motor with my dad. He has assembled 3 or 4 different motors for his Mach 1 so we should be fine. I will look into that motorsports hardened shaft though.
 
WhiteDevil said:
That sounds good. I actually plan on building this motor with my dad. He has assembled 3 or 4 different motors for his Mach 1 so we should be fine. I will look into that motorsports hardened shaft though.


I also want to mention about checking/setting pan to pick up clearance. You want 3/8-1/2". Use clay to measure. Put clay on the pick up, bolt the pan on with a few bolts and the gasket, then pull it apart and measure the clay.
 
If your using the stock pan/pickup...just bolt-on and go...it will be fine as long as you havne't messed something up. Worry about pan/pickup clearance when you have aftermarket pan/pickup...
 
5spd GT said:
If your using the stock pan/pickup...just bolt-on and go...it will be fine as long as you havne't messed something up. Worry about pan/pickup clearance when you have aftermarket pan/pickup...


Incorrect. You MUST check. Talk to my builder Rick 91GT if you never done it before :) He told me all about it and how to go about checking and setting it. Stock pan and I had to set it, FYI :) Don't give incorrect info out!

Edit: Heres what my builder Rick 91GT had to say about pan to pick up clearance: "Use a ruler to measure the thickness, you need atleast 3/8"-1/2" is fine. If you need a little more clearance pull up on the pick-up to bend it into place, a little goes a long way!"

What were you saying about not having to check again, 5spd????
 
Grn92LX said:
Incorrect. You MUST check. Talk to my builder Rick 91GT if you never done it before :) He told me all about it and how to go about checking and setting it. Stock pan and I had to set it, FYI :) Don't give incorrect info out!

Edit: Heres what my builder Rick 91GT had to say about pan to pick up clearance: "Use a ruler to measure the thickness, you need atleast 3/8"-1/2" is fine. If you need a little more clearance pull up on the pick-up to bend it into place, a little goes a long way!"

What were you saying about not having to check again, 5spd????

Here is what I saying, if it is stock, you don't need to check it. It will be fine, unless you see something off...

Stock pan/gasket/pump/pickup tube, if those are used it will bolt down the same way within minimum difference.

If you are going aftermarket with either, it is a good idea to check it.

They are "set" from the factory...you don't see any one pulling their stock 5.0L engines saying that the clearance was off and caused problems...do you;) It is different if you are going aftermarket...

Clear enough?

I never said the way to check it was incorrect, I said it isn't needed if your using stock components.