347 Oiling questions

[WhiteDevil]

So im still getting parts together for my 347 stroker thats coming together. I had some questions about how i should run my oiling set up. Like what kind of pump? Ford Racing High volume good? Also do i need an aftermarket oil pan? Or should i run my stocker? Are there aftermarket pans that will fit in with the stock K? Thanks guys

 

[Joes95GT]

There ARE oil pans that will fit over the stock K. Which ones, I have no clue. I wouldn't get a high volume pump with a 5 quart pan. In the upper RPM's there is a chance you'll suck the pan dry.

I'd look more for a stock blueprinted pump if you're that worried about it. If it was my 347, I'd be using stock pan and pump, but that's just me...

Joe

 

[95strokerPSU]

I went with the Canton 7 quart for my 331. It clears the stock K member with new energy suspension motor mounts. Not sure how much motor mounts break in, but I'll have a new K member by the time it's a problem, if it ever is.

 

[Grn92LX]

I use a stock pan on my stock block 347. IMO no reason to use an expensive pan. I use a melling M68 pump. I let my builder pick that out, i'm not sure if its a high volume or not (not high pressure)

Heres my engine showing my stock pan painted gray

 

[5spd GT]

M68 is stock pump. That is what I have.

Using a bigger pump lets you have more oil to circulate thru the engine...kind of a form of dilluting dirt into more oil so to say...

 

[Grn92LX]

M68 is stock pump. That is what I have.

Theres a few different varieties of melling M68 pumps. Theres the standard replacement for just over $20 and the high performance one for just over $30. I just went through my Emails with Rick and it looks like I have the high performance one I'll have to ask him to be sure. Its a high volume, standard pressure. Hopefully thats what I have.

 

[Grn92LX]

By the way, WhiteDevil, I also use a motorsport hardened oil pump shaft which I recommend over the arp. Have your builder set the tollerances with the distributer gear.

 

[WhiteDevil]

By the way, WhiteDevil, I also use a motorsport hardened oil pump shaft which I recommend over the arp. Have your builder set the tollerances with the distributer gear.

That sounds good. I actually plan on building this motor with my dad. He has assembled 3 or 4 different motors for his Mach 1 so we should be fine. I will look into that motorsports hardened shaft though.

 

[Yobi1Kanobi]

I am using a canton 7 qt with a melling hv pump. With a windage tray and scraper. Which i the long run makes you HP.

 

[Grn92LX]

That sounds good. I actually plan on building this motor with my dad. He has assembled 3 or 4 different motors for his Mach 1 so we should be fine. I will look into that motorsports hardened shaft though.

I also want to mention about checking/setting pan to pick up clearance. You want 3/8-1/2". Use clay to measure. Put clay on the pick up, bolt the pan on with a few bolts and the gasket, then pull it apart and measure the clay.

 

[5spd GT]

If your using the stock pan/pickup...just bolt-on and go...it will be fine as long as you havne't messed something up. Worry about pan/pickup clearance when you have aftermarket pan/pickup...

 

[Grn92LX]

If your using the stock pan/pickup...just bolt-on and go...it will be fine as long as you havne't messed something up. Worry about pan/pickup clearance when you have aftermarket pan/pickup...

Incorrect. You MUST check. Talk to my builder Rick 91GT if you never done it before He told me all about it and how to go about checking and setting it. Stock pan and I had to set it, FYI Don't give incorrect info out!

Edit: Heres what my builder Rick 91GT had to say about pan to pick up clearance: "Use a ruler to measure the thickness, you need atleast 3/8"-1/2" is fine. If you need a little more clearance pull up on the pick-up to bend it into place, a little goes a long way!"

What were you saying about not having to check again, 5spd????

 

[5spd GT]

Incorrect. You MUST check. Talk to my builder Rick 91GT if you never done it before He told me all about it and how to go about checking and setting it. Stock pan and I had to set it, FYI Don't give incorrect info out!

Edit: Heres what my builder Rick 91GT had to say about pan to pick up clearance: "Use a ruler to measure the thickness, you need atleast 3/8"-1/2" is fine. If you need a little more clearance pull up on the pick-up to bend it into place, a little goes a long way!"

What were you saying about not having to check again, 5spd????

Here is what I saying, if it is stock, you don't need to check it. It will be fine, unless you see something off...

Stock pan/gasket/pump/pickup tube, if those are used it will bolt down the same way within minimum difference.

If you are going aftermarket with either, it is a good idea to check it.

They are "set" from the factory...you don't see any one pulling their stock 5.0L engines saying that the clearance was off and caused problems...do you It is different if you are going aftermarket...

Clear enough?

I never said the way to check it was incorrect, I said it isn't needed if your using stock components.

 

[WhiteDevil]

Ok guys thanks for the info. Ill probably be reusing my stock oil pan with a new stock style oil pump, it looks like the way to go.