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351 victor jr under 66 shelby hood?

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dacrab

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I know this is a really old thread...but I'm here to tell ya that a Victor Jr w/ a Mighty Demon carb and 3" air cleaner fits all day long...you have to get one of the drop down air cleaners...! I even had a 4" air filter but it scrapped the hood just a little!
 

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dacrab said:
I know this is a really old thread...but I'm here to tell ya that a Victor Jr w/ a Mighty Demon carb and 3" air cleaner fits all day long...you have to get one of the drop down air cleaners...! I even had a 4" air filter but it scrapped the hood just a little!
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Yeah, but you have a 302.
 

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dodgestang said:
Yeah, but you have a 302.
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LOL

I have a Vic Jr on my 393w under a shelby hood scoop of my 65'. The scoop was grafted on for looks and is not needed for my Vic Jr. installation, although it does allow me to use a fancy air cleaner hold down.

Here is how I did it:

1. Drop the motor in the chassis as far as it can go. I used 65' pedestal motor mounts which puts the pan just above the tubular crossmember.

2. Angle mill the carb flange on the Vic Jr. You need to take .300 off the front of the pad and near zero at the rear. This lowers the front of the carb and makes this swap possible.

3. Use a carb that originally was produced without a choke. The bodies air cleaner flange is physically lower and you don't have to worry about the choke being in the way.

4. Modified a 14" drop open element air filter housing so it sits even lower on the holley.

With these mods I use a 2 3/4" high air filter element. It provides the desired minimum 1 1/4" filter base to top clearance.

After installation I have 3/8" of air cleaner top to hood clearance. To keep the motor from twisting and lessening the clearance, I use a torque strap to hold the motor into place. This has worked well with my 393w 4 speed street car--even at the drag strip using slicks the controlled torque keeps the air cleaner from hitting the hood.

Here it is using in 289 HiPo disguise:





 

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dodgestang

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dennis112 said:
LOL

I have a Vic Jr on my 393w under a shelby hood scoop of my 65'. The scoop was grafted on for looks and is not needed for my Vic Jr. installation, although it does allow me to use a fancy air cleaner hold down.

Here is how I did it:
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Well....according to his profile he does have a 302

Now you on the other hand...you sure that isn't a cleveland

At least now there is a definitive answer...if you are handy you can make it work, but it looks like slim chances for an off the shelf bolt and go assembly
 

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The Torker II gives up very little to the Vic jr. on a big inch Windsor, and it will provide plenty of torque down low too.

Here are the dyno figures from my 408 with a torker II and out of the box 735 vac sec Holley:

RPM C TRQ C PWR BSFC
4105 489.0 382.2 .517
4200 493.7 394.8 .50
4300 491.6 402.5 .48
4400 500.5 419.3 .46
4500 489.6 419.5 .46
4600 489.7 428.9 .44
4700 492.2 440.5 .42
4800 522.0 477.1 .40
4900 522.3 487.3 .40
5000 512.7 488.1 .45
5100 516.9 501.9 .40
5200 507.9 502.9 .45
5300 497.3 501.9 .46
5400 492.8 506.7 .50
5500 487.8 510.5 .50
5600 484.2 516.6 .47
5700 479.4 520.3 .50
5800 487.4 537.5 .40
5953 462.5 524.2 .47

I suppose you could put this engine in a truck, but don't know why anyone would want to??
 

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dodgestang said:
Now you on the other hand...you sure that isn't a cleveland

At least now there is a definitive answer...if you are handy you can make it work, but it looks like slim chances for an off the shelf bolt and go assembly
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Gee Nick, does a Cleveland even fit under the hood of a 65/66???? (Yeah, I know the real answer )

You are 100% correct in your observation. The Vic Jr is not a simple bolt-on in a 65/66 351w conversion for under a stock type hood. I just wanted to illustrate here that it can be done with some ingenuity and perseverance.
 
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"I know the torker will fit, but it is kinda gay, not to offend any homo's out there"



ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!





BTW .............. how much can you lower a 302 block with different motor mounts ??????
 
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A 14" round air cleaner lid is too wide to tuck up into a shelby style scoop. There really isn't much clearance gained over a stock hood if your using a 14" round air cleaner.
 
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