i don't know why the c6 wouldn't bolt up unless theres some sort of bellhousing difference i don't know about. theres tons of ppl with 351w + c6, and why not just rebuild the Cleavland? i'de rather have a 351c hands down.
Honestly I'm pretty certain there's no way to rebuild it without spending as much as a 408 or 418 crate windsor and there's not the amount of speed parts out there for the cleveland. Plus it's a 4V head engine and so streetability is not really the best. If you've got better, cheap ideas to make 550 STREETABLE HP for less than 7K I'm open for suggestions.
Thanks
Well gee.....thanks? I guess there are those that have something constructive to say and those that just want to look like the smartest guy in the room. I guess I know which one you are.....Based on what all you've posted here, you've got a lot to learn in building Fords. Rebuild what you have.
Well gee.....thanks? I guess there are those that have something constructive to say and those that just want to look like the smartest guy in the room. I guess I know which one you are......
I don't have personal knowledge, but know people who have used Coast High Performance for 347 stroker motors and they have been VERY happy with the outcome. While I'm sure some people are passionate about certain breeds of motors, I am like you. Currrently, I'm running a 30 over cleveland and have spent probably 2 times what it would have cost to go windsor. I'm in the process of building a 408 windsor stroker, Eagle forges internals, Professional Products Hurricane intake for the move to EFI, and a nice set of aluminum heads for some good old fashioned tire smokin power.
Don't get me wrong, my cleveland roasts the tires nicely, but try to find an EFI or blower intake for a cleveland.
The reason Ford killed the Cleveland had nothing to do with the oiling issues (which are easily fixed for a few dollars) It was due to the emissions regulations & economics at the time. Everyone knows that. It wasn't stopped, but lived on another10-15 years in Australia. You have the know how, but still haven't made your case here.Mr. Hearne, I was not attacking you, nor was I discounting your knowledge, merely stating the obvious. While i'm sure my 35 years of experience in building Fords palls to your experience, I think I might know a wee little bit. I have built windsors, clevelands, side oilers, fe's, you name it. I live near you, along the gulf coast and do not need EFI for mountains, I don't "need" it at all, but I WANT it, and yes, there are other EFI options that will work on clevelands. There is a reason Ford stopped producing cleveland blocks, mostly due to the poor oiling issue with the rear cam lobes. The heads are awesome, hence the BOSS motors.
Blower drive service offers blower intakes for both windsors and clevelands. The cleveland version is more expensive.
As a die hard NASCAR fan I am well aware of what is in a NASCAR engine, a windsor block with cleveland style canted valve heads. But I dare you to run your stock cleveland for 500 miles at 7000 rpm.
Trust me, I love cleveland motors, but my pocket book doesn't.
Good because honestly I could care less about everything you are spewing out. The ONLY one here that has bias and can only see things one way is you. You of course think you're teaching everyone something and the torch you're carrying for the 351C......dude get over it and get over yourself. If you were "somebody" in the engine building world you wouldn't have the time or energy to comment on here as much as you do. The fact that I'm building both engines is none of your business and what do you care what I do. I started this with a simple question about fitment that I wanted answered by someone that's done it. I just want to try something different....so what's your deal. Basically you just want to butt in and tell everyone what you think they need to know or correct someone when you have the chance. Think about it. I've looked at some of your other posts. Of course you will not agree or recognize this which doesn't surprise me. Probably why you have so much time to answer posts....no body wants to be around you. Well, I'm off to pull the motor out of the car and then I'm gonna STUFF A WINDSOR IN IT!!!! SO THERE!!! Why? Because that's what I want to do and BECAUSE I CAN! Again, to everyone else that doesn't want to show off or try to make themselves seem superior and justs wants to talk shop and help out, THANKS GUYS!Look, I could care less if you "like me" or not
Good because honestly I could care less about everything you are spewing out. The ONLY one here that has bias and can only see things one way is you. You of course think you're teaching everyone something and the torch you're carrying for the 351C......dude get over it and get over yourself. If you were "somebody" in the engine building world you wouldn't have the time or energy to comment on here as much as you do. The fact that I'm building both engines is none of your business and what do you care what I do. I started this with a simple question about fitment that I wanted answered by someone that's done it. I just want to try something different....so what's your deal. Basically you just want to butt in and tell everyone what you think they need to know or correct someone when you have the chance. Think about it. I've looked at some of your other posts. Of course you will not agree or recognize this which doesn't surprise me. Probably why you have so much time to answer posts....no body wants to be around you. Well, I'm off to pull the motor out of the car and then I'm gonna STUFF A WINDSOR IN IT!!!! SO THERE!!! Why? Because that's what I want to do and BECAUSE I CAN! Again, to everyone else that doesn't want to show off or try to make themselves seem superior and justs wants to talk shop and help out, THANKS GUYS!
Honestly I'm pretty certain there's no way to rebuild it without spending as much as a 408 or 418 crate windsor and there's not the amount of speed parts out there for the cleveland. Plus it's a 4V head engine and so streetability is not really the best. If you've got better, cheap ideas to make 550 STREETABLE HP for less than 7K I'm open for suggestions.
Thanks
Okay, whatever bro, you're a freakin genius. You know everything there is to know about everything. Tell you what, I'll just pick one at random. Keith Craft has a 408 windsor with a dyno proven 517Hp and 533Tq for $7875. You build me a Cleveland that is dyno run and tested and tuned with aluminum heads, intake, water pump MSD ignition with a roller cam. You provide ALL the parts from carb to pan all new save for the block at an equal or cheaper price and I'll buy it from you. Actually given all your knowledge you should be able to build it with far more power than that....you do have a dyno right? Okay just PM me when you have it ready.This was the first time you proved yourself ignorant. HAve fun now, hear? :grouphug:
Cool link, thanks. Sounds like a bad motor. Just to be clear, I enjoyed my Cleveland and still believe it's a great motor that you can make great power with. I have no doubt that I could build a very powerful engine out of mine. This post took a strange turn when "somebody" obviously got offended by the idea that anyone would be interested in doing a Windsor build instead of a Cleveland. I have nothing against the 351C I just recognize, regardless of what anyone says, that the aftermarket performance products and support for the 351W far exceed that of the 351C. Did they have any info on the cost of the build for something like that? Awesome build that it is I'm sure John had a lot of time and money invested in getting those numbers. Also, what's the real world longevity on these builds they do for the competitions? Just curious, not implying it wouldn't, just don't know. Thanks again.
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