351C in a SN95

rj95svt · Oct 3, 2010

zap-o-matic said:
BlackVert yeah there the same mounting points, went in there fairly simple.

rj95svt I was actually running a 750 on it, actually a little too much for the car. The 670 Holley does great on it though. I'm using a T-5 that was just recently rebuilt, cant remember from what year, but it was highly recommended by the guy as far as a factory transmission goes. I see your running 3:73's in your car. How do you like them? I was kicking around the idea of them instead of the 3:50 gear I have to put in it.

Hmm, My 2v 351C loved a 750dp and picked up over the 650 I had on it before. Every combo is different though

I like the 3.73's but there won't be much difference from the 3.50's you have now.

revhead347 · Oct 4, 2010

I love the dryer hoses. I vote to keep em. It's ghetto fabulous.

Kurt

99FiveOh · Oct 4, 2010

nah, some nice polished stainless tubes would look badass under there!

nmcgrawj · Oct 5, 2010

How big of cowl did you need?

Good work!

zap-o-matic · Oct 5, 2010

nmcgrawj said:
How big of cowl did you need?

Good work!

Its still VERY rough, I'm getting it running and reliable before I paint, or do any body work.
And that was the smallest cowl I could get away with to make everything fit lol.

revhead347 · Oct 5, 2010

I have a 4" cowl too. I think it looks great. Car needs to be lowered pretty bad.

Kurt

zap-o-matic · Oct 6, 2010

I would lower mine, but with the horrific roads of Eastern Ky, its not such a good idea. Mine sets pretty level surprisingly, but I may get brave enough to take it down just a little bit...with the long tube headers hanging down, it may be a challenge on these roads.

revhead347 · Oct 8, 2010

Understandable.

Kurt

351CSleeper · Oct 2, 2011

I am working on my 94. Shoe-horining the 351 C with the Boss heads. Headers are trying to kick my butt. I think I am on the last header challenge--AODE trans linkage. I need to flip the linkage and raise the cable a little.

fawcett · Oct 6, 2011

In terms of power, which motor has more HP potential? The 351W or 351C?

What kind of MPG's do you get with the 351C?

I don't know what is wrong with my combo but I'm lucky to get 15MPG's with my (untuned) FRPP 302 combo and I doubt I'm making anywhere near the power you are.

Looks cool man, nice job!
Fawcett

revhead347 · Oct 6, 2011

The 351C is definately a more performance oriented design. Unfortunately the short production run has lead to a restricted aftermarket for parts. A W engine just has more goodies available, and therefore, more potential.

Kurt

harrellv10 · Oct 8, 2011

What headers did you use?

Arrrggghhhhh! Someone did this before I got it done! That's OK, now I can pick your brain for tips, ha! I have a 1994 GT convertible CobraR clone. The big CobraR cowl hood will easily clear a tall Cleveland intake... and my 347 is probably living on borrowed time at 610 HP. I just happen to have an old 351 Cleveland in my storage unit. I'm taking it to the maching shop in a couple of weeks to clean it up and see if it's in good enough shape for a rebuild. It will be the next engine project that goes into my 1994. I want to do a 393 stroker with TFS R-Series intake and 225cc heads, figure out a way to mount my trusty vortech S-trim on it, custom HR cam, and go get some groceries really fast!
My questions are:
1) Are we looking at having custom headers made for this, or are there some off-the shelf ones that will fit the SN95s with tubular K-members and T56s?
2) What power levels can the clevelands handle? My block is a 2-bolt, but will be treated to a 4-bolt conversion. Will a partial fill hurt cooling capabilities?

revhead347 · Oct 8, 2011

Not sure on the headers. Do they even make stroker kits for Clevelands???? I know they don't make a TFS-R intake that will fit. Partial fill will definately hurt the cooling capacity. Lots of guys running partial fills on the street, but I'm not one of them so I can't tell you how bad it is.

Kurt

harrellv10 · Oct 9, 2011

TFS R-series intakes...

They are still pretty new to the market, but Trick Flow has released two new intakes for Cleveland 9.2" deck engines. Check them out at summit racing's website, they look pretty kick-ass! One is for carburetors, single plane, looks NASTY with the black powder coat and those spider legs! A blacked out Holley Ultra would look very dark and menacing sitting on one of those! The other intake is an EFI intake, just like the 5.0 and 5.8 windsor ones, but it's just the lower, and you can use your choice of existing 5.8 Windsor upper intakes on it. Both are rated at about 2500-7250 RPM range on 351s, so on a 393 it would be just right for a hot street set up.
As far as 393 kits go, DSS racing, Coast High Performance, and a couple of other reputable companies make them.
I already have the TFS complete fuel system (rails, braided steel lines, pumps, etc) and this 393C rig should shoe-horn in and make a pretty cool Trick Flow Cleveland set up.
I will probably call the guys at Kooks Headers and see what they can fabricate for me and go completely custom with the exhaust and the cam.
I was just wondering what headers the other guys who have done this used and if the old school Clevelands can handle 700HP and 6500RPM.

revhead347 · Oct 9, 2011

That's cool, learn something new every day. You're the first person I know to refer to DSS as a reputable company.

Kurt

harrellv10 · Oct 10, 2011

Headers?

So, 351CSleeper, what headers did you use?

revhead347 · Oct 10, 2011

I have no idea what headers to use. But now I hate you, because now I want to build a Cleveland based engine for my car.

Kurt

EXTRPR50 · Nov 2, 2011

I love the C's! My '71 Torino Cobra had the 4v. Alot of people advise to get the 2v heads for street use. The 4v heads and entire engine are made for performance. Good job.

revhead347 · Nov 2, 2011

4v and 8v heads are rare as crap. I had a friend make a decent combo with 2v heads, but the heads were definately holding it back. With the recent availability of aluminum heads, I think the 'C' and 'M' engines are going to make a comeback.

Kurt

JonezySN95 · Nov 3, 2011

revhead347 said:
4v and 8v heads are rare as crap. I had a friend make a decent combo with 2v heads, but the heads were definately holding it back. With the recent availability of aluminum heads, I think the 'C' and 'M' engines are going to make a comeback.

Kurt

I am just now learning about the 351w's... this thread is making my head hurt lol

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