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MikeH686

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Ordered one of these last week and it finally came in. To no avail there isn't much on install instructions, has anyone ever installed one? Looking mostly as to how far back do I cut the inner fenders?
 
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Tanner has
 

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@tannerc91gt tttt
 

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Give me a few hours to get to work and I’ll write you up some details.
 

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Love it . Wish i had the guts to do mine
 

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That will be one BADASS couch in the end though!:zombie:
 
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Here’s a couple pictures from when I was doing mine.
It’s way harder to screw up than you might think.



And here’s a shot from Blake’s page showing where the top ends up.

But the real key is to look up under and align the tab with the OEM hole you’ll find.

You can leave yourself 3-4 inches on the initial cut off to give yourself some room to work. Then you can slowly trim it back and align the holes. There’s no need for the bolt once you’ve welded it in, but it helps hold it in in the meantime.

The bottom butts up right to the shock tower. Just trim it back without cutting open where the sheet metal meets and give yourself room to weld.





Here’s the orientation for the lower support if you weren’t sure.
Trim up and bolt the top section, get the bottom butted up against the strut tower (I used some c clamps to hold the bottom to the car) and then get the lower core slide on and tacked in.
Then you can do your final welding and keep it square.
Keep in mind that the frame rails will actually have a gradual angle out just as the factory ones do. It’s just a lot more noticeable with the tube front for some reason.
 
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There is a write up somewhere on corral too.

Joe
 

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Oooo those things got expensive. I thought they were half that! Just looked them up
 

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hoopty5.0 said:
Oooo those things got expensive. I thought they were half that! Just looked them up
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Mine was $800 shipped with radiator mounts.
I only paid $40 though lol
 

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tannerc91gt said:
Mine was $800 shipped with radiator mounts.
I only paid $40 though lol
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raffle?

that front end is on my list... just not sure if it will be this year or next LOL
 
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tannerc91gt said:
Mine was $800 shipped with radiator mounts.
I only paid $40 though lol
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I'm going to start sending you money to enter for me in the "waffles" and "affles"
 

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srtthis said:
raffle?

that front end is on my list... just not sure if it will be this year or next LOL
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It's been on my list for a while, just not priority. My car's been in a wreck, so I will have 0 remorse hacking the front end off and making my fenders fit the right way.
 
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It's been on my list for a while, just not priority. My car's been in a wreck, so I will have 0 remorse hacking the front end off and making my fenders fit the right way.
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im with you on that... my car is nothing special so i have no problem doing what ive done to it. it was a 4cyl auto hatchback at its birth. its been wrecked... its been swapped... its been fixed... its been re painted so odd red color. when it comes back out its going to be green and has been cut more than an emo kid who wants the attention.
 
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srtthis said:
raffle?

that front end is on my list... just not sure if it will be this year or next LOL
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hoopty5.0 said:
I'm going to start sending you money to enter for me in the "waffles" and "affles"
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Yeah a raffle. I won this front end and a set of pro radials back to back.

I’ve since wasted money on probably 20 more raffles. Chasing that high lol
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Raffle Anonymous, they have a 10 step program, entry is based on a lottery system.
 

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tannerc91gt said:
Here’s a couple pictures from when I was doing mine.
It’s way harder to screw up than you might think.



And here’s a shot from Blake’s page showing where the top ends up.

But the real key is to look up under and align the tab with the OEM hole you’ll find.

You can leave yourself 3-4 inches on the initial cut off to give yourself some room to work. Then you can slowly trim it back and align the holes. There’s no need for the bolt once you’ve welded it in, but it helps hold it in in the meantime.

The bottom butts up right to the shock tower. Just trim it back without cutting open where the sheet metal meets and give yourself room to weld.





Here’s the orientation for the lower support if you weren’t sure.
Trim up and bolt the top section, get the bottom butted up against the strut tower (I used some c clamps to hold the bottom to the car) and then get the lower core slide on and tacked in.
Then you can do your final welding and keep it square.
Keep in mind that the frame rails will actually have a gradual angle out just as the factory ones do. It’s just a lot more noticeable with the tube front for some reason.
Click to expand...


Thanks for posting all that. I've been looking into doing this since I saw it in your build thread.
 
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MikeH686

Mine is only two inches though.
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Yeah I won a set of tires already my buddy won a holley dominator but like an idiot took the cash out option because his tuner told him to keep the stock ls computer
 

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And so it begins.
 
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Those first cuts had to be a little nerve racking I would guess.
 
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