Yup did that to my AOD. You have to get the whole trans to do the internal swap. May be easier to just put the 4r70w and run a trans controller. Only way to get rid of the AOD TV cable is to run a CP manual VB. you can have it set-up in Auto with a TV cable only to set shift points. If not a high HP application just rebuild the AOD and add the 4R70W Direct drum with the diode and the AODE sunshell and good rebuild kit. Also HD input shaft with a non locking converter. If it is a 91-93 AOD it will already have the HD stamped steel drums that are the same as AODE and 4R70W. 91-93 AOD only need the direct drum and sunshell upgrade with HD input shaft to be as good as a 4R70W.
i have a 1993 mustang gt aod i would get the 4r70w and use it but dont want to deal with the computer but thing is will all the internal parts from the 4r70w fit the aod? like the oil pump the drum etc?Yup did that to my AOD. You have to get the whole trans to do the internal swap. May be easier to just put the 4r70w and run a trans controller. Only way to get rid of the AOD TV cable is to run a CP manual VB. you can have it set-up in Auto with a TV cable only to set shift points. If not a high HP application just rebuild the AOD and add the 4R70W Direct drum with the diode and the AODE sunshell and good rebuild kit. Also HD input shaft with a non locking converter. If it is a 91-93 AOD it will already have the HD stamped steel drums that are the same as AODE and 4R70W. 91-93 AOD only need the direct drum and sunshell upgrade with HD input shaft to be as good as a 4R70W.
i have a 1993 mustang gt aod i would get the 4r70w and use it but dont want to deal with the computer but thing is will all the internal parts from the 4r70w fit the aod? like the oil pump the drum etc?
Technically the AODE is a 4R70W but not really when you are talking about solenoid driven valve bodies that need a computer. The AODE is a hybrid of AOD and early 4R70W upgrades.That is not the only way to control a 4r70w w/o a computer..
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thank you !If you have a full 4r as a core, the only thing you should need from the aod is the case, the valvebody section, input shaft, and the output shaft (4r doesn't have provisions for the governor).
Check out clickclickracing.com, lots of good info there.
thank you for the info ! saved me alot i searched alot and couldnt find any good answers !Perfect year for AOD. Same as me. You have all the HD internal parts except for the Direct drum and output shaft and input shaft. Direct drum is a must so is the input shaft. Direct drum with mechanical diode upgrade is needed. That is a 4R70W direct drum with mechanical diode and a 90-95 AODE sun shell. AOD direct drum is a weak point. 4R70W Output shaft is only needed when you are pushing over 600hp with slicks. Input shaft is the weakest link in an 1993 AOD.
Just rebuild what you have and add the 4R70W direct drum with Diode and replace the input shaft and get a converter with non lock-up in the 2500-300 stall range. You have the stamped steels drums and they are the same as the 4R70W. No need to spend the money for a whole parts tranny. I bought my direct drum off ebay. Brand new NOS parts. Got the sun shell off of ebay also. 150 bucks.
You will need to get the Sonnax HD servo kit and the newer 2-3 accumulator and a good valve body shift kit if you want to have the TV cable control pressure or a new reprogrammed valve body from one of the suppliers out there. If done properly the AOD will handle 550 HP all day long and you will not have to change a lot of stuff out. 4R70w will need a computer as the valve body is solenoid controlled for shift points. There are other details that will need to be addressed like shifter and driveshaft depending on what valvebody set-up you use. Click click racing is a good source for AOD info. Sometimes a little hard to follow what is written.
No problem. I searched Click click racing too. The info is scattered about and in no particular order. You tube has the best info on this rebuild and swapped parts. I have been tuning my car for the last few weeks. But all indications are the swapped 4R70W parts in MY AOD work perfectly and it hits hard and feels good. Love the 1,2,3 shift and overdrive with the flip of a switch. This is the way the AOD should have been from the beginning.
With the hydraulic aod, the input shaft is actually two pieces, an inner and outer, with one being fluid coupled and one direct driven. Going to a "non-locking" converter also means going with a stinger, one-piece input. The 4r (and aode) use a "one-piece" shaft and a clutch inside the converter for a true lockup that can be triggered electronically.Why use a non lock up convertor? Can one be kept for highway mileage?
Is the 4R70 input shaft the HD one, or is there a specific place to order one for the AOD?
Yeah they help me way more then a searching the internet with different unorganized information aha but yeah I started to rip apart my aod and the 4r70w but because of work making me have less time to work on it . which is sad@Chuckman "you da man!" Thanks for refreshing my memory with a clear, precise answer.
I am getting out of @1badfifty 's thread and wil head to the racing site. I just hate unorganized sources of info. @jrichker 's how to guides maybe do not spoil us, but they are extremely helpful. I really wish someone had put that kind of info together for my other cars. And I have factory shop manuals, assembly manuals and wiring books for them. Just the wiring pages I printed off here saved me plenty.
do i need a subshell from a 90-95 Aode or can i use one from a 4r?? I want to get the 2" band to put in my aod
With the hydraulic aod, the input shaft is actually two pieces, an inner and outer, with one being fluid coupled and one direct driven. Going to a "non-locking" converter also means going with a stinger, one-piece input. The 4r (and aode) use a "one-piece" shaft and a clutch inside the converter for a true lockup that can be triggered electronically.
There are aftermarket aod-specific shafts made of better materials (and the one piece), but they do not interchange with the 4r.
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