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chemeng

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Just got my '65 Fastback with some improvements. Added a Tremac 5 speed and Tri-y headers. What a jump in performance. I installed a posi with 3.55's last year and saw a little improvement, but dumping the Cruise-O-Matic was the best decision yet. Had a little clearance issue with the headers and the power steering cylinder, I had the drop bracket but had to extend it down another quarter inch to clear. She really screams now, gonna be expensive keeping rear tires on her! Mike
 
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just outa curiousity... what are you running for clutch linkage? cable, manual, hyd?
 
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Went with the manual linkage, wanted the original look, but today's performance. Mike
 

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Which trans did you install? Is it the Tremec T-5 (same trans as Fox-body Mustangs) or one of the heavier units (TKO, TR3550, etc...). I have a T-5 in mine, but am counting the days until a little over-enthusiastic driving blows it apart, but have heard that the TKO / TR3550 / etc is a tight fit that requires some 'massaging' of the trans tunnel. By 'massaging' I mean cut out and replace...

What's your experience?
 
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Did you have any clearance issues? How do the angles look?

Chris Barton
 
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chemeng

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It's the Ford Racing Super Duty T-5 but has Tremac stamped into the case. The angles are the same as my old Cruise-O-Matic. Had to massage my bellhousing to accept the starter, but the tunnel had no clearance issues. I replaced the old '65 motor mounts with the newer design '66 mounts to clear the headers away from the shock towers. The headers are pretty close to the starter also, I am sure the extra heat will reduce my starter life. Mike
 

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Check out G-Force: http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp

Bullet-Proof internals for your T5.
 
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I put a tremec in my 68 fastback with minimal clearance issues. Since the tremec is basically a top loader with an overdrive. If you have a top loader 4 speed bell housing all you need is a spacer plate or a shorter input shaft. They are both available at about any mustang part supplier. I think I got mine from CJ's. If I remember right the shifter hole had to be enlarged. Your going to need a new crossmember and driveshaft work. Best money spent though. It's nice cruising around 80 at 2800 instead of 4k!
 
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Did not have to enlarge the shifter hole, but the driveshaft had to be shortened and balanced. Cost me a hundred bucks to do the work.
 

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Just out of curiosity, what RPM are you turning with the 3.55's at about 65mph? Does the Tremec have the same fifth gear ratio as the regular T5?
 
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The tach says 2300 RPM at 65 mph. 5th gear is 0.63:1, not sure what the regular T5 runs. I think there is a T5 option for a lower 5th gear. Summit Racing sells them new for $1,150.00. Not a bad deal.
 
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Just curios. Did you have any clearance problems with the manual trans? I have a 66 conv, & I was looking into the Tri-y's. Some catalogs say to modify, others don't. Any info is good info.
 
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66P51GT said:
Check out G-Force: http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp

Bullet-Proof internals for your T5.
Click to expand...


i can attest to the bullet-proof upgrade...... 416" windsor on drag radials. with the first motor (306 mechanical roller afr heads) i broke 1 reg T5...and 2 world glass T5's... normal street abuse..never attempted to drag race the car knowing the tranys would prolly break...after upgrading to the g-force guts... i havent had a single problem.

i run a wilwood hyd slave cyl, and tilton clutch master....... also running shorty headers which cook the crap out of the slave o-rings.... i usually replace them about every oil change....... so im looking for a better way while im in the "upgrade" mode.
 
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Had to make a small dent to clear the starter and lower the power steering drop bracket another quarter inch, but fit great otherwise. Highly recommend, the sound is incredible.
 

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race-rodz said:
world glass T5's...
Click to expand...
Freudian Slip... <grin>
 
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ya ya.... i saw it..and was too lazy to edit it... i figured everyone would figure it out
 
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