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Chuckman

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Why so few of those ysi's in existence? It seems the demand is there for a good sized production run? Or is it just an obscene cycle time on the billet impeller?
 

84Ttop

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Chuckman said:
Why so few of those ysi's in existence? It seems the demand is there for a good sized production run? Or is it just an obscene cycle time on the billet impeller?
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There isn't a huge demand for these blowers, mostly due to the limited market. While the impeller and Volute of the V27 are identical to the V7 Ysi-b, the similarities stop there. This particular blower uses a different case, heavy duty transmission with a different step up ratio, completely different bearing pack, different oiling system etc etc etc. These are "race" only type blowers and only fit into the NMRA Renegade or Ultra/Ultimate street rules hence the limited market. All of the bits and pieces are built to order with very small production runs, typically they would have the parts in stock to build a few if needed it just so happened that the timing of a few of these big races has them waiting on the machine shop.

Not the best picture to illustrate the difference but you can get the drift here. On the right is a V7 JT trim and on the Left is a V24 Xb105 (same transmission case as the V27)
 
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TOOLOW91

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Drool . I needs me a v7 ysi-b .... Wait wut ? Can't leave well and well enough alone


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Bullitt347

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84Ttop said:
There isn't a huge demand for these blowers, mostly due to the limited market. While the impeller and Volute of the V27 are identical to the V7 Ysi-b, the similarities stop there. This particular blower uses a different case, heavy duty transmission with a different step up ratio, completely different bearing pack, different oiling system etc etc etc. These are "race" only type blowers and only fit into the NMRA Renegade or Ultra/Ultimate street rules hence the limited market. All of the bits and pieces are built to order with very small production runs, typically they would have the parts in stock to build a few if needed it just so happened that the timing of a few of these big races has them waiting on the machine shop.

Not the best picture to illustrate the difference but you can get the drift here. On the right is a V7 JT trim and on the Left is a V24 Xb105 (same transmission case as the V27)
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I will hook you up with a twin screw if you want to go fast... Lol
 
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srtthis

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if you really wanna go fast im sure i can find you a deal on an 88mm turbo
 
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TOOLOW91

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shots fired !


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srtthis said:
if you really wanna go fast im sure i can find you a deal on an 88mm turbo
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We all make mistakes Derek @srtthis but that's ok. Next time we go to the track I have an idea that will reinvent the bacon bowl, just bring me a compressor housing. I may actually find a use for a turbo after all hahahaha
 
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84Ttop said:
We all make mistakes Derek @srtthis but that's ok. Next time we go to the track I have an idea that will reinvent the bacon bowl, just bring me a compressor housing. I may actually find a use for a turbo after all hahahaha
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Salad shooter????
 
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Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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Hey.. you could actually use turbo piping to cook bacon!
 
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84Ttop

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Boosted92LX said:
Hey.. you could actually use turbo piping to cook bacon!
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Think about lining the compressor housing with bacon to make a bacon bowl on the grill..... GENIOUS!
 
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Boosted92LX

It's only an inch or two. What's the big deal?
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84Ttop said:
Think about lining the compressor housing with bacon to make a bacon bowl on the grill..... GENIOUS!
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Indeed. However, with all the heat mine makes, I don't need the grill. I could probably duplicate your taco shells by laying it over the piping.. and the car would smell like.. BACON!
 
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Sharad

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mmm bacon ...
 

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Sharad said:
mmm bacon ...
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I could go for nicks eggs right now with some of that bacon . Or the porkrolls from Sunday am .


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I was just thinking the same thing. Looked in the fridge, no bacon.
 
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im being your standard basic bitch with pumpkin spice pancakes.....
 
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84Ttop

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Enough about pancakes and bacon... back to business here!
Today I "made" some time to do some things that needed to be done. It's not easy finding time, running a business, spending quality time with my family, working on and number of ridiculous projects.. it all takes a lot of time. Well today I had one of the most epic time management wins of all times! I wake up today knowing that I have a meeting to attend first thing in the morning 8:00 followed by a funeral at 11:00. I knock those things out no problem. I think to myself, self you need to weld the fuel rails on the 84' so that we can actually go back to the track before it snows... That is what I do. On my way back from the funeral I stop at the shop (one of three different shops I have my crap spread across... and decide to weld these fuel rails. The caveat to this is I'm wearing some nice clothes, clothes that have no business being in a shop. Oh well, if I ruin these pants or shirt that is too bad... I weld this junk and go on my way. I'm now at work completely caught up and typing this on the interwebz before I head home to actually fire the car back up... I'm winning all over this day! The pants and shirt in case you were wondering... they survived unscathed!
Mandatory welding selfie... That ain't no racing T shirt

This is one of my finished fuel rails, it isn't pretty welding on contaminated aluminum but I made it work
 
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My math wisdom of the day...
So I'm in another thread recommending two 255lph fuel pumps to a guy, this got me to thinking just how does this compare to the retarded fuel pump I had to buy for this year.
Lets break this down:
1 gallon is equal to 3.785 liters
My pump flows 12.5 gallons per minutes at 100psi
Converted to liters, 47.3125 liters per minute at 100psi
47.3125 liters times 60 minutes in an hour equal 2,838.75 lph
So my stupid mechanical fuel pump moves 2,838.75 liters of fuel every hour at 100psi of pressure
Compare that to a pair of 255 lph in tank pumps, that is kind of ridiculous!

To compare that to the Weldon 2345 that we used last year (and by all means that is a big momma pump) that reigns in at 946.25 lph at 80 psi
For those that don't have a calculator handy, this pump flows 1/3 the amount of fuel as my current pump and at 20 less psi
Again, this is ridiculous!

Compare now the A1000 pump that flows 317.685 lph at 80 psi
Aeromotive stealth pump flows 340 lph at only 40 psi

All of this doesn't mean anything other than I'm bored watching it rain at work, just figured I had to rant about something?
 
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84Ttop said:
My math wisdom of the day...
So I'm in another thread recommending two 255lph fuel pumps to a guy, this got me to thinking just how does this compare to the retarded fuel pump I had to buy for this year.
Lets break this down:
1 gallon is equal to 3.785 liters
My pump flows 12.5 gallons per minutes at 100psi
Converted to liters, 47.3125 liters per minute at 100psi
47.3125 liters times 60 minutes in an hour equal 2,838.75 lph
So my stupid mechanical fuel pump moves 2,838.75 liters of fuel every hour at 100psi of pressure
Compare that to a pair of 255 lph in tank pumps, that is kind of ridiculous!

To compare that to the Weldon 2345 that we used last year (and by all means that is a big momma pump) that reigns in at 946.25 lph at 80 psi
For those that don't have a calculator handy, this pump flows 1/3 the amount of fuel as my current pump and at 20 less psi
Again, this is ridiculous!

Compare now the A1000 pump that flows 317.685 lph at 80 psi
Aeromotive stealth pump flows 340 lph at only 40 psi

All of this doesn't mean anything other than I'm bored watching it rain at work, just figured I had to rant about something?
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I have to say, it does take some extreme boredom for me to sit and calculate numbers like that... for entertainment? Lol!
 
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84Ttop

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Boosted92LX said:
I have to say, it does take some extreme boredom for me to sit and calculate numbers like that... for entertainment? Lol!
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I was counting rain drops... I started to get in the territory of numbers I can't count, you know like past 5 or 6 and started thinking. We all know that is dangerous!
 
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A5literMan

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Well...you should never need a bigger pump. At least I think so
 
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