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'86 3G Alternator Install Questions

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Yesterday the bearing in my alternator went bad so I decided to upgrade it with a 3G 130Amp alternator.

I've read through several walk-thru's, including this one: http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/646825-3g-alternator-install-how.html

The problem I'm running into is that the '86 is a Btard year.

I ran a 4g lead from the post to the starter 'noid, ground down the bracket, ect. Now it's an electrical problem. I'm missing wires.




As you can see I don't have the stator wire coming from the D connector.

I was wondering if I could use the green/red wire that's on the middle of the plug as the stator wire because of this pic:

Photo by Katmandu

and this pic:

Photo by jrichker@yahoo.com

Or if there is a how-to for '86s I'd really appreciate it.
 

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You missed this one... It shows you what the missing wires do and where they go...

 

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PA performance sells an alternator plug that pretty much makes it plug-and-play in the '86. Been there, done that. It's like a $12 part.
 
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I think I may have figured it out on my own.

I think this has also cleared up an idle problem I was having. Before the idle would fluctuate from 1k to 2k while at lights & things. Now it stays between 800-1000rpm.

From what I figured out on my car the yellow is a constant & the green/red is a key on/ignition on. There doesn't seem to be stator wire.

On the '94 the yellow is constant, middle white/black is stator, & outside green/red is key on/ign on.

So I did the following:
I needed a wire to run to the non-existent 3rd prong. So I made one.




I missed a bit of a step pic wise- but what I did was cut the green/red wire. I soldered the green/red coming off of the wiring harness to the piece of wire I ran through the D plug. Then I soldered a piece of wire onto the green/red wire that was left on the D plug.



All connected:


I still need to get 2 more ring connectors so I can move the fuse a little further down the line but it's working for now:


Too keep it from hitting something & shorting out until I can clean it up:
 

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You might want to have a fuse on the power cable near the battery connection.
 
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I thought the fuse was supposed to be closer to the alternator instead of the battery?

It wouldn't take but a minute to change it around so it's not a big deal.
 

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I still think you're missing a resistor in there. The PA Performance conversion plug includes a resistor on the red/green wire, and you can see it in the diagram that jrichker posted above. I do not know what the consequences of omitting this resistor are, but I do know that I sleep better at night when I know my car isn't going to catch on fire from an electrical problem because I cut corners.

If you haven't seen it already, I made a post about it in the 3G conversion thread:

http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/646825-3g-alternator-install-how-4.html#post8336469
 
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Thanks. I'll pick one up just to be safe. $12 for a little safety after all the money I've spent on the car over the last year is worth it.
 
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Just wanted to update. I bought the harness from PA performance. To be honest- I don't think it was worth the $25 it cost me. I should have just looked up what resistor I needed & spent the .25 to buy one.

Not that the harness is bad at all- just not worth $25 when all I really needed was a resistor.
 

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NickP87 said:
Just wanted to update. I bought the harness from PA performance. To be honest- I don't think it was worth the $25 it cost me. I should have just looked up what resistor I needed & spent the .25 to buy one.

Not that the harness is bad at all- just not worth $25 when all I really needed was a resistor.
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Post a picture or send me a link that shows the PA Performance wiring harness and I will update my 3G tech note to include the 86 model Mustang.
 
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