No pigeon crap on this car, they make shotguns to take care of that.... I must admit that it is outside for this Winter but it does have a good tarp on it until I get my F 150 out of the garage. Like most of us on here to many projects and not enough time or is that money.....?? I thought it is in a barn??
Project, pigeon or barn?I wish I had another
It is a True Recaro houndstooth Pace car. I have balanced them both in one hand, a gutless 302 with a crap transmission with a lousy 7.5" rear end with less that stellar brakes vs parts from 98 GT with a good running 4.6, a good 8.8 with disc brakes and a K member that will work all while adding 5 lug wheels. So what am I changing that most Mustang enthusiast wouldn't change except for the 4.6, and the way I look at it the hard part will be done so that the next owner can drop in a Coyote. But I plan on leaving it for my grand daughter because the first time she saw it she asked me if she could have it..... I admit there is one thing I haven't figured out yet and that is do I install the automatic that is in the GT and have to change pedals or do I install the T 45 along with the 4.6 then I have to figure out what I need for a clutch assembly for the T 45 into the pace car. Any ideas on that ?I once knew a guy that completely hacked up an 89 Mustang with the intent of adding 1968 body parts to the front, and rear of that car. His thought process was that it was a “ factory 4 banger, gutless POS”.
The negative pushback he received from changing the bodywork was just about 2 out of 3.
And it wasn’t anything special......like a 79 pace car is.
If this is a Recaro seat, True 1979 Pace car, think twice about gutting it and hacking in sht from the donor car. If you put “ what you want” in one hand, and balance “ what you have” in the other, the 79 PC, restored to a resto-mod level will be a far better end result. A Resto-mod, where you change out the “ gutless 302” with a power-added HCI rebuild, trans, brakes, rear and suspension upgrade(s) while keeping the interior and exterior true to stock will do way more for that car, ( and your future resale) than the path to pieces-part bump steer town you’re currently planning.
It is a True Recaro houndstooth Pace car. I have balanced them both in one hand, a gutless 302 with a crap transmission with a lousy 7.5" rear end with less that stellar brakes vs parts from 98 GT with a good running 4.6, a good 8.8 with disc brakes and a K member that will work all while adding 5 lug wheels. So what am I changing that most Mustang enthusiast wouldn't change except for the 4.6, and the way I look at it the hard part will be done so that the next owner can drop in a Coyote. But I plan on leaving it for my grand daughter because the first time she saw it she asked me if she could have it..... I admit there is one thing I haven't figured out yet and that is do I install the automatic that is in the GT and have to change pedals or do I install the T 45 along with the 4.6 then I have to figure out what I need for a clutch assembly for the T 45 into the pace car. Any ideas on that ?
None of that is a concern as I said I am going to leave it for my grand daughter. What's it worth ? Has to be worth more with the 4.6 and all the rest of the GT parts than it is as it sits with a clapped out 302. No offense to the 302 guys but I have no use for it, cost to much to rebuild the anemic engine to get the same power as the 4.6 and the 4.6 will drive and run easier than a modified 302 will. I made my decision watching a friend of mine building a mid 80's Mustang with a 302. He put a big cam in it with aftermarket heads and intake and ended up with a car that wasn't streetable. He sold it without ever driving it. With the 4.6 I will have a car that can be driven daily and if I want some more power I can add a blower. JMO....First sentence will be 'I'm never selling it'
I'm not getting into 'what's it worth when' discussion.
Just post up some pics already and show us what your doing to it.
do I install the T 45 along with the 4.6 then I have to figure out what I need for a clutch assembly for the T 45 into the pace car. Any ideas on that ?
He don’t know me very well....he thinks I have passion for a 302I appreciate your passion for the 302, but I don't share it with you. Have you ever done something that didn't make sense to others but it tripped your trigger ? Well this is mine. I have two f-150's with 5.4's that couldn't hold a candle to my 98 with a 4.6 granted both 5.4's have automatics while the 4.6 was a 5 speed. I just really like the 4.6....and if I find the 4.6 as anemic I looked today and there is a 5.0 Coyote on FB marketplace at a reasonable price so I can always upgrade to one of those....
Thx DaveSo was it that bad putting the 4.6 in your Fox ???
And the 4.6 has an automatic, which is why I asked about the T 45 ? Thx Dave
This. They look cool when the hood is first opened, but that's where the cool-factor stops unless you're putting a turbo or a blower on it.4.6L swaps are weak sauce... unless your putting boost to it
I wanted to Coyote swap the super-Pinto in the worst way until Mike unintentionally talked me out of it... in my search for an engine I actually liked to look at that would have some "wow factor" and make some power... I ended up at the 4.6DOHC. It's too good an engine to ignore that can be had for even less than the iron-block truck LS engines now.I made the claim of wanting to put a 4.6L DOHC in a Factory Five Cobra kit car on the forum one day and everyone pooped on me for not going coyote. I don't want a Coyote.
This is true, and with a whole donor car, it's not like it'll be a nightmarish swap, but a carb, intake, cam, headers, and exhaust would have the "weak" 302 that's in it knocking on the door of 300hp, I know, I've done it to two practically identical malaise-era 302s in Mustang IIs. I can see both sides of it. On the one hand, upgrading that 302 does nothing but help the car in virtually every way. On the other, the 4.6's drivability can't easily be ignored. It's Cadillac or Lincoln smooth, makes about the same power as a stock 5.0 HO, only weighs a little more, and at the least, looks cool.If the man wants to put a 4.6L in his car, then let him. His car, his money.
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