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Golden 68

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Usually that is a beginning line to a joke, but not in this situation.

I have a 70 Boss clone that has a 347 stroker. The clutch is way shot so we pulled it and the tranny. We turned the wheels to get a guess on the rear end gears ...

279s ?? or so.

I am not very excited by that.

Can someone help me with this? Will this car be quick and fast? I am fearful it will be a dog at takeoff with those gears.

I am guessing I want like 355s?

Any and all thoughts, please.

My mechanic buddy said to drive it and see ...

Help?
 

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Golden 68 said:
Usually that is a beginning line to a joke, but not in this situation.

I have a 70 Boss clone that has a 347 stroker. The clutch is way shot so we pulled it and the tranny. We turned the wheels to get a guess on the rear end gears ...

279s ?? or so.

I am not very excited by that.

Can someone help me with this? Will this car be quick and fast? I am fearful it will be a dog at takeoff with those gears.

I am guessing I want like 355s?

Any and all thoughts, please.

My mechanic buddy said to drive it and see ...

Help?
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With a 4 speed ,3.55 is a good gear ,2.79 would be good for freeway driving but would eat up a clutch driving in town just trying to get it rolling
 

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Maybe that is why the first clutch was fried?

I just think it will be like trying to drive a fast car with the parking brake on?
 

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Would you still try it first and see? Could we be off with our guess on gears?
 

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I just checked the build sheet from matahari -- sp? and it says it was originally a 302 2v with 300 gears and a cruise o matic.

Does that say anything?
 

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If it's an 8" rear end, (most likely with a 302 auto) then, to the best of my knowledge, the ratios Ford installed were 2.75, 3.00, 3.25, 3.50, and 4.10
A 2.75 ratio will give great highway mileage, and be doggy around town.
The 3.25 ratio I had in the '69 was great for all-around driving. I could run sub-14s in the quarter and get 19 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. That was with 23560R14 tires, a 351W 4v and FMX trans.
 

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Thanks James -- can't wait to try it out!!!!
 

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More rear end tech courtesy Mustangsteve.com:

Rear End Ratio Selection
We are not talking economy here, just performance.
For a street car to be a strong performer, you need a torque multiplication ratio of at least 9:1. To figure this, multiply the transmission's first gear ratio by the rear end's ring & pinion ratio.
A C4 has a first gear ratio of 2.46:1.
An AOD has a first gear ratio of 2.40:1.
Example 1) 2.46 X 3.00 = 7.38:1 Torque multiplication ratio.
Example 2) 2.40 X 3.89 = 9.336 Torque multiplication ratio. (MUCH better!)
A Mustang with 26" tall tires, non-overdrive trans (1:1 in high gear), 3.00:1 rear end ratio, and travelling @ 60 MPH, will be turning roughly 2,326 RPM.
Given the same circumstances except for a AOD transmission change (.68:1 in overdrive), and 3.89:1 rear end gears, the same vehicle would be turning 2,051 RPM's! Rear end info provided by Steve Ainsworth - Thanks!
 

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Wow! that is good information -- thanks!
 
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