AFR 185's or Victor Jr.'s??

69Rcode_Mach1

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I have a 1969 Mach 1 with a 351 Windsor and am getting prepared for some performance work. This will be a street car, that i will occasionally race. I am shooting for 400fwhp, but right now i am at a pitiful 155rwhp . I am 5000ft elevation. Anyways any help with some ideas would be appreciated. I also don't know whether i should get the afr 185's or edelbrock victor jr.'s.

 

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It depends on what gearing you want to run. if you're staying with the fmx and won't move beyond a 3:50 rear gear than the 185's would be a better head for a 351. If you're willing to push 3:70+ gears or willing to go with a 5spd I'ld go Victor jr's

 

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Id have to say AFR 185s. They will meet and exceed your power goals with a mild camshaft, proper intake, and proper carb

 

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I would agree. Depends on what you want. For just a mild 351, I would probably go with the afr's. You want to get a little more radical then I would go with the vic jr's. Same price. But one thing to watch for is how big of a cam you go with. The vic's are set up for around .650 lift. Afr's are I think only good for around .550. Then you'll have to pay more for the spring upgrade. My buddy just built and dyno'd his 351 with afr 185's and a fairly mild extreme energy hyd flat tappet cam. Dyno'd at 469 hp!

 

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Afr's are also a better match for 500 - 6500 RPM where as Vic. Jr's are from 1000 - 7000 I believe. Talk about a gas burner. So based on your other parts this should help you better determine what you will want. The key is to match up your parts.

 

69Rcode_Mach1

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jasonn said:

My buddy just built and dyno'd his 351 with afr 185's and a fairly mild extreme energy hyd flat tappet cam. Dyno'd at 469 hp!

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Wow thats awesome. Was he at sea level though? Im at 5000 ft and dyno at 155 rwhp which hurts me everytime i say it. So should i be able to get those same results? I wanna do the heads cam and intake. What kind of cam is your friend running? I just dream of that power. I just bought a set of hedman elites for my car and am ready to get to work with the other performance parts this summer. Help me out guys.

 

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Can't remember the compression. I can ask him but I think it's right around 10.5:1. the biggest extreme energy cam they got for sbf. vic jr intake with 750 holley. 1 3/4 headers. Don't know the elev. I'm in Min if that helps.

 

69Rcode_Mach1

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Whats the stock compression on the 1969 351 Windsor mine was originally a 2v but is now a 4v. Can you get the exact details on the cam your friend used. This sounds like the setup im looking for.

 

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Goto jegs -

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2396&prmenbr=361

351 cams, part# 249-CL35-254-4


Stock comp on a 2 brl windsor in 69 was 9.5:1.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=132