Ahhh its starting already!

[MrStang123]

Ok well Ive had my car for a day and already problems. Theres a white smoke problem. I did do a search and I don't think its a blown head gasket, or a cracked intake. But Im not sure.

The red circle indicates where the smoke is coming from. There is a rubber hose that connects to the exhaust pipe down there(right next to the header). And the smoke is coming out of that rubber hose. And I think(im no engine expert) that hose is connecting to what is the starter. Now the car is even having trouble starting up and as soon as it turns on theres just a big cloud of smoke from the engine and it keeps coming out of the exhaust.

Im taking it in tomorrow morning to get this taken care of. Just wanted a bit of input on what the problem might be. Thanks!

 

[ahnospell44]

looks like the air conditioner line...maybe leaking oil onto the exhaust headers?

 

[16vstang]

that looks like the heater core line to me. it gos from the block to the firewall and into the heater core inside the car. If thats leaking you wont get very good heat inside the car and you'll be low on coolent.

 

[MrStang123]

Ok well the mechanic came to tow the car today because it wasn't even starting. Apparently he thinks that there might be water in the gas tank. But he is going to be checking it out first thing in the morning. So I guess I will be getting to the bottom of this very soon.

 

[TylerDurden]

yup

That looks like the heater core line. I tried to remove mine because it was in the way of something else I was working on. They say you have to be real careful not to bust it where it connects at the core. If you need to replace it, I would say to just go ahead and slice it off carefully with a razor and use "real" hose clamps when you hook up the new ne. Those stock clamps piss me off.

 

[MrStang123]

Well bad news dammit. I spoke to my mechanic today and apparently the engine blew. How? I have no clue in hell. But I think im going to take it to my friends mechanic to get a second opinion. So I gotta start looking for a new engine. My friends mechanic is good for that sorta thing. Ill have to check around myself too. Maybe Ill bump into a nice tc engine along the way. But does anyone know of any junk yards in the NY tri-state area that I can check out??? Or maybe someone has an old engine they don't need anymore let me know. Thanks!

 

[Keasbey]

in a J/Y , you can get a nice 2.3n/a for something like 100-150$.. get it tested before buying it! Plug a starter on it and a battery and try to start it..

Keasbey

 

[2.3Lxhatch311]

Engines usually don't go from 'running but smokes' directly to 'does not start and is dead'. I'd definatley get it looked at by someone else, some guys just love to sell engines to people who ask questions like "what is that" and "what does this do". because they think they'll believe it easy enough. Not saying your man is a crook, just advising you to watch out for them.

 

[Wannabe2.3T]

I dont think there is any rubber hose that is connected to any of the exhaust on our cars...well i know for a fact there isnt. also i am positive there is no rubber hoses that run to the starter either. Well lets start from scratch. where was the first time you noticed this smoke? Starting it or driving it? has it made any weird noises before or during this problem? any weird smells?
For now, i wouldnt be handing "your mechanic" any cash other than for the tow maybe. I Have never seen a 2.3 n/a blow up unless it was very, very overheated. hell...I bought a 2.3 last year for $200, and drove it home (about a mile) with a golf ball sized hole in the #2 cyl. if you car was overheated severely or you had it pegged at 7k rpm's for some time, then it might be blown. but those are about the only two ways that these motors can take a dump, there are literally bulletproof.

 

[Willy0314]

I dont think there is any rubber hose that is connected to any of the exhaust on our cars...well i know for a fact there isnt. also i am positive there is no rubber hoses that run to the starter either.

I have rubber hoses and grounds connected to everything in my engine bay. It looks like a big spiderweb. I think the car makes about 1000hp since I added them all

I Have never seen a 2.3 n/a blow up unless it was very, very overheated. hell...I bought a 2.3 last year for $200, and drove it home (about a mile) with a golf ball sized hole in the #2 cyl. if you car was overheated severely or you had it pegged at 7k rpm's for some time, then it might be blown. but those are about the only two ways that these motors can take a dump, there are literally bulletproof.

No motor is invincible. I asure you that every 2.3L can be blown up. If you've ever worked as any kind of Tech, the things people do to their cars, its surprising more of them aren't blown up. On a side note, how'd you put the con rod through the block? I had one exit the oil pan once I thought I ran over a landmine :damnit:

 

[MrStang123]

Well lets start from scratch. where was the first time you noticed this smoke? Starting it or driving it? has it made any weird noises before or during this problem? any weird smells?

First time I noticed the smoke was when I turned the car off. If was near the back of the engine and it was even coming out of the vents in the car. Then after that whenever it started it was smoking. Before the problem I heard some slight sputtering in the exhaust and the rpms would jump during that time. And it just smelled like burning.

But on a light note I have managed to locate a 2.3 with 72k miles on it for $300 bucks. Im supposed to check it out tomorrow but I am going to continue to search for others.

 

[MrStang123]

Yeah and I think I was duped big time. My gf was going over some of the service receipts that they gave me when I bought the car. And we checked out the carfax report. There was no record of the car for anything in 2002, no inspection and no mileage check. But we did find receipts from 2002. Apparently there was some sort of fire with the car. The alternator caught fire. These service reciepts also read 143000 miles, which would mean that they lied to me about the mileage (98k). The car has a 5 digit speedo. So I guess 198k could be a reason for a blown engine. What I dont understand is that a service receipt 2 days before that showed 73k miles on it. So I really dont understand that, just that none of the numbers matched what so ever. So I dont know what kind of mix up that could have been. Either way Im going to be fixing the car up. But I wanna get to the bottom of this crap.

 

[Keasbey]

If the smoke come from the back of the engine, it could be a coolant hose that was disconnected, check the hoses over the exhaust manifold(Green& blue cicle on the pic) for leaks.. And check if there is enough coolant. If there is no more coolant(water or prestone). And if some smoke go throught your vent, maybe your heatercore is shot?(is it heatercore?)

 

[4bangen]

man it looks like your hose runs derectly on top of the exast manifold.
i have 2 complete motors in my gerage and 2 disasembled motors. If you look hard enouph there is always someone wanting to give one away.(oh and Im NOT one of them)
2 of the motors I have where given to me.

 

[MrStang123]

I should ask my neighbor if he still has his 351 that he took out of his 68' . Well either way I want my damn money back, these people sold me a lemon. I believe that they either lied to me about the mileage or tampered with it. Not to mention they didn't put "As is" on the bill of sale. Im pissed dammit! :damnit:

 

[Keasbey]

I should ask my neighbor if he still has his 351 that he took out of his 68' . Well either way I want my damn money back, these people sold me a lemon. I believe that they either lied to me about the mileage or tampered with it. Not to mention they didn't put "As is" on the bill of sale. Im pissed dammit! :damnit:

So, finally? is it shot?

 

[MrStang123]

Yeah mechanic says its done.