Angry, frustrated depressed, please help me. (t5 related)

StarFox07 · Apr 4, 2007

My car has been on jack stands for almost 2 weeks now because of one F'ING LITTLE THING. I bought a rebuilt trans for it, and i dropped my old one out. When I put the two trannies up together, they were a little bit different. The driveshaft fits on both so it will work, but here is the thing that is PISSING ME OFF

Old Trans:

This sensor, threads into that hole in the center of the pic.

New Trans:

As you can see, the hole for the sensor is on the OTHER side on and the thread size is different (the hump on the other side has no opening). My first question is, WTF is this sensor???? I know I dont need it for the car to run, because it was not even connected in the first place. I would just plug it up, but I cant find a bolt the right size(thread is unique i think). So please, if ANYBODY has one laying around, i will give you like $20 for it. The model numbers on both the trannies are exactly the same, and I specified for a 91 5.0 trans. So its just really really pissing me off.

I have tried finding it at o'rielleys, autozone, and even the ford dealership. Nobody knows what it is much less being able to order it.

trbkrb · Apr 4, 2007

What part of Texas are you in? You might PM a guy on here, Neighbors , and ask him about this. He rebuilds trannys here in Houston and might have an idea about it.

Good luck!

Sicarius428 · Apr 4, 2007

The sensor is the clutch safety start thing. It can be bypasses which it sounds as if it was already done.
Kevin

86bluecobra · Apr 4, 2007

So is it an issue of sensor just not reaching? You could just splice in some longer wires. Or is it an issue of the sensor not threading in?

trbkrb · Apr 4, 2007

86bluecobra said:
So is it an issue of sensor just not reaching? You could just splice in some longer wires. Or is it an issue of the sensor not threading in?

He said the thread is different. I'm thinking the top of the tranny is probably from another T5 application besides a Fox Mustang. I'd also contact the rebuilder and see what they have to say. I guess he could swap out the tops on the trannys, but he shouldn't have to do that with a fresh rebuild.

86bluecobra · Apr 4, 2007

trbkrb said:
He said the thread is different. I'm thinking the top of the tranny is probably from another T5 application besides a Fox Mustang. I'd also contact the rebuilder and see what they have to say. I guess he could swap out the tops on the trannys, but he shouldn't have to do that with a fresh rebuild.

yep ,issed that just went back and re-read. Can you just run the numbers off of this tranny and find the sensor that goes with it and splice the new sensor into your wiring?

tb9050lx · Apr 4, 2007

StarFox07 said:
My car has been on jack stands for almost 2 weeks now because of one F'ING LITTLE THING. I bought a rebuilt trans for it, and i dropped my old one out. When I put the two trannies up together, they were a little bit different. The driveshaft fits on both so it will work, but here is the thing that is PISSING ME OFF

Old Trans:

This sensor, threads into that hole in the center of the pic.

New Trans:

As you can see, the hole for the sensor is on the OTHER side on and the thread size is different (the hump on the other side has no opening). My first question is, WTF is this sensor???? I know I dont need it for the car to run, because it was not even connected in the first place. I would just plug it up, but I cant find a bolt the right size(thread is unique i think). So please, if ANYBODY has one laying around, i will give you like $20 for it. The model numbers on both the trannies are exactly the same, and I specified for a 91 5.0 trans. So its just really really pissing me off.

I have tried finding it at o'rielleys, autozone, and even the ford dealership. Nobody knows what it is much less being able to order it.

is that a 4 cyl top or maybe a gm top

86bluecobra · Apr 4, 2007

tb9050lx said:
is that a 4 cyl top or maybe a gm top

No I don't think so because world Class T-5's that I have seen have that top on them.

StarFox07 · Apr 4, 2007

86bluecobra said:
yep ,issed that just went back and re-read. Can you just run the numbers off of this tranny and find the sensor that goes with it and splice the new sensor into your wiring?

The number is the same for both of them.

Does anybody know where I can buy a new sensor from?

86bluecobra · Apr 4, 2007

StarFox07 said:
The number is the same for both of them.

The tag that hangs off one of the rear bolts that connects the tail to the main case? Those numbers are the same?

StarFox07 · Apr 4, 2007

86bluecobra said:
The tag that hangs off one of the rear bolts that connects the tail to the main case? Those numbers are the same?

Only the old one has a "tag" (i'll have to get the number) but the number on the tail shaft is the same for both of them.

86bluecobra · Apr 4, 2007

StarFox07 said:
Only the old one has a "tag" (i'll have to get the number) but the number on the tail shaft is the same for both of them.

yah those numbers on the shaft (please correct me if I am wrong) don't really tell you much about the actually tranny itself.

StarFox07 · Apr 5, 2007

On another board, they said the new one is the correct 5.0 T5 and the old one is some other t5.

C6AE · Apr 5, 2007

Why not just swap covers?

jrichker · Apr 5, 2007

Doesn't anyone ever read the manual? It is a free download. See http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/onlineorder/product.asp to download a FREE service manual for T5 or Tremec 3550/TKO
You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

The "sensor" isn't a sensor at all. It is the switch that operates the backup lights.

Bakup light switch location:

The hole in the top of the trans case is for the neutral safety switch that is used to tell the computer it is safe to dump the engine running codes.

Neutral saftery switch: see item #6 on the drawing:

trbkrb · Apr 5, 2007

StarFox07 said:
On another board, they said the new one is the correct 5.0 T5 and the old one is some other t5.

I looked at my original T5 this morning and I have to agree. The top looks like the new one. Ford should have the right part then.

EDIT: I see Jrichker beat me to it !

GTA_V6_Mustang · Apr 5, 2007

86bluecobra said:
No I don't think so because world Class T-5's that I have seen have that top on them.

GM used world class t-5's in their camaro's and firebirds/trans am

Nibbie · Apr 5, 2007

I would get a cover with new shift forks from a 94-95 mustang t-5, they are a bit stronger and can handle more abuse. Or you can just swap the covers over and it should work fine, T-5's have been used in camaros, mustangs and some imports, so it wont be un-common to find minor differences in all of them.

86bluecobra · Apr 5, 2007

GTA_V6_Mustang said:
GM used world class t-5's in their camaro's and firebirds/trans am

yes but i believe they don't look exactly like the t-5's in mustangs. Correct me if I am wrong.

86bluecobra · Apr 5, 2007

jrichker said:
Doesn't anyone ever read the manual? It is a free download. See http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/onlineorder/product.asp to download a FREE service manual for T5 or Tremec 3550/TKO
You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Ouch that was a little over the top. I usally do when it is a nitrous or raocker question. Never thought of it in this thread. Next time I'll beat you to it. Thx for reminding us.

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