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grantur01

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I have been wanting to get the stainless guage cluster from mustang depot. You can buy the stainless insert for the glove box. My current glove box has pits from being original. Instead of buying a new glove box ($90), I wanted to know if I could just re-chrome the trim myself??? Anyone done this yet???? Or know of any kits for this???? thanks
 

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Here is the answer to all of your problems. Real electroplating is very involved so try this. Note: they have 3 different systems you can buy : ghost chrome, mirra chrome, and chrome FX. I am not sure how well it works but the pics look nice!!!


http://www.alsacorp.com/generic/chrome/chrome.html
 

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stang976 said:
Here is the answer to all of your problems. Real electroplating is very involved so try this. Note: they have 3 different systems you can buy : ghost chrome, mirra chrome, and chrome FX. I am not sure how well it works but the pics look nice!!!


http://www.alsacorp.com/generic/chrome/chrome.html
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Hell, all that is is chrome paint...just hi tech. It will chip, fade, and oxidize. Two options doing it the cheap way: chrome powdercoat or a plug n plate kit. Both cost about $100-$200 to setup. If you get into REAL chroming, you will have to deal with the EPA and the chemicals are very costly. You could also buy an anodization kit. Finding them is up to you though...i cant do all the work
 
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Hey AllCarFan!

Rechroming itself won't fill the pits. The glove box door would need to be stripped, pits filled by brazing or other method, copper plated, nickle plated, and finally chrome plated at least twice. Buying the new door is much cheaper, but you might check out a motorcycle chrome shop to see what they would charge.

An example for you... I sent the vent frames from my '66 to a place in Nashville and it cost $95.00 each to rechrome. The vent window lock levers were $25.00 each.
 

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or you can just wrap it in silver attic tape and call it a night
 
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Hey AllCarFan!

Rechroming itself won't fill the pits. The glove box door would need to be stripped, pits filled by brazing or other method, copper plated, nickle plated, and finally chrome plated at least twice. Buying the new door is much cheaper, but you might check out a motorcycle chrome shop to see what they would charge.

An example for you... I sent the vent frames from my '66 to a place in Nashville and it cost $95.00 each to rechrome. The vent window lock levers were $25.00 each.
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$95 seems very low if they filled pits and plated them. When looking for this on my '65, the cost was closer to $500 per frame. I was patient and eventually they became an aftermarket item. I bought the pair I had for $285 from California Mustang. It took them six months to deliver them after several ordering faux pas. My advice with California Mustang is if they have the item in stock, fine...have the order filled immediately. If they want to back order...tell them no thanks! Their sales staff is really inept at keeping track of back orders. They mean well but they can't find their ass the moment you hang up the phone.

Jeff
 

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allcarfan said:
Hell, all that is is chrome paint...just hi tech. It will chip, fade, and oxidize. Two options doing it the cheap way: chrome powdercoat or a plug n plate kit. Both cost about $100-$200 to setup. If you get into REAL chroming, you will have to deal with the EPA and the chemicals are very costly. You could also buy an anodization kit. Finding them is up to you though...i cant do all the work
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Well, its not just chrome paint, there's actual metal in there. The chipping part, I agree with, fading and oxidizing? That remains to be seen. I haven't seen chrome powdercoat, does it look just like chrome? I'm actually impressed with this paint system. I'm getting a pair of fiberglass bumpers for my '63 Fairlane drag car and I plan on having them painted with this chrome paint system to replicate an aluminum bumper. I couldn't powdercoat those and aluminum bumpers are $2200 each (ouch).

Plug and plate kit... would that be the zinc plating kit like they sell in Eastwoods? Anodizing kit... you can only anodize aluminum and the glove box door is pot metal, I doubt it'd work. And powdercoating isn't the end all be all. I saw some headers a couple weekends ago on a pair of replica cobras that were done in black by a nationally recognized coating firm that the owner said the coating started popping off withing 15 minutes of being started up the first time. They have a lot of road rash on them now and have been touched up with high temp black paint several times. The company said they'd make it right, the owner wants to wait until the late fall when the car goes into hibernation before he pulls the pipes as he wants to enjoy the car this summer.
 

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1320stang said:
Well, its not just chrome paint, there's actual metal in there. The chipping part, I agree with, fading and oxidizing? That remains to be seen. I haven't seen chrome powdercoat, does it look just like chrome? I'm actually impressed with this paint system. I'm getting a pair of fiberglass bumpers for my '63 Fairlane drag car and I plan on having them painted with this chrome paint system to replicate an aluminum bumper. I couldn't powdercoat those and aluminum bumpers are $2200 each (ouch).

Plug and plate kit... would that be the zinc plating kit like they sell in Eastwoods? Anodizing kit... you can only anodize aluminum and the glove box door is pot metal, I doubt it'd work. And powdercoating isn't the end all be all. I saw some headers a couple weekends ago on a pair of replica cobras that were done in black by a nationally recognized coating firm that the owner said the coating started popping off withing 15 minutes of being started up the first time. They have a lot of road rash on them now and have been touched up with high temp black paint several times. The company said they'd make it right, the owner wants to wait until the late fall when the car goes into hibernation before he pulls the pipes as he wants to enjoy the car this summer.
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No, not a zinc plating kit. I have no idea what metal the glove box door is made of, I was just giving as many options as possible. Chrome powdercoat is nice, especially for small pieces. Im sorry, but I would never use a chrome paint...regardless if it has some metal in it or not. Paint is paint. If you read that article it says that it is as durable as an automotive finish...hence...paint with a hardener. I WOULD NEVER powdercoat a set of headers and gurantee them. I just did it for a friend of mine for free because i wouldnt gurantee that it wouldnt come off. There are different types of powdercoat too...high heat, regular, custom colors, etc. Hell, jet-hot burns off headers after a while. If the coating was popping off within 15 min....then they were not prepped properly.

If you want to paint your bumpers, go for it.....thats what im doing. Have you looked into chroming plastic? yes, it is possible...and not with paint. However, for METAL....especially a small piece like a glove door box....I would use a plug n plate kit (as I have done before)...or powdercoat chrome.

No, rechroming will not fill in the pits...thats where prep work comes in. Depending on how deep the pits are, they could be sanded out...or just completely stripped....

Personally, spend the $90 for a new glove box door.
 
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geegee said:
$95 seems very low if they filled pits and plated them. When looking for this on my '65, the cost was closer to $500 per frame. I was patient and eventually they became an aftermarket item. I bought the pair I had for $285 from California Mustang. It took them six months to deliver them after several ordering faux pas. My advice with California Mustang is if they have the item in stock, fine...have the order filled immediately. If they want to back order...tell them no thanks! Their sales staff is really inept at keeping track of back orders. They mean well but they can't find their ass the moment you hang up the phone.

Jeff
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No pits in my stuff. They were perfect, just dingy. I was referring to the condition of his glove box door...

I've had really good luck with Mustangs Unlimited. Its California Mustang that screws my stuff up. Each parts house must have an allocation of customers to mess with.
 
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No, not a zinc plating kit. I have no idea what metal the glove box door is made of, I was just giving as many options as possible. Chrome powdercoat is nice, especially for small pieces. Im sorry, but I would never use a chrome paint...regardless if it has some metal in it or not. Not even on a set of bumpers? (see similar below)Paint is paint. If you read that article it says that it is as durable as an automotive finish...hence...paint with a hardener. I WOULD NEVER powdercoat a set of headers and gurantee them. I just did it for a friend of mine for free because i wouldnt gurantee that it wouldnt come off. There are different types of powdercoat too...high heat, regular, custom colors, etc. Hell, jet-hot burns off headers after a while. If the coating was popping off within 15 min....then they were not prepped properly. I agree that they weren't properly prepped, but this was ceramic coating. Same company did the polished coating on my friend's FE headers and they still look great after 10 years.

If you want to paint your bumpers, go for it.....thats what im doing. What's the difference between your painting your bumpers with regular automotive paint and my wanting to use the chrome paint?Have you looked into chroming plastic? yes, it is possible...and not with paint. Yeah, they put the part in a metallic salt bath and that gives the part some conductivity to allow the chroming process to take place. However, for METAL....especially a small piece like a glove door box....I would use a plug n plate kit (as I have done before)...or powdercoat chrome.

No, rechroming will not fill in the pits...thats where prep work comes in. Depending on how deep the pits are, they could be sanded out...or just completely stripped....

Personally, spend the $90 for a new glove box door.
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I think there was a misunderstanding.....on a set of glass or plastic bumpers, sure, why not, id use the paint if it was as durable as autmotive paint. I meant there was nothing wrong with painting them. If you can get a smooth enough surface, I have seen chrome paint in a rattle can look good (on my rearend) - boy, did i leave myself open for that one.

I thought you meant that the headers were powdercoated, not ceramic coated. Id definetly be returning those things....just like the guy you know is. The big companies, im sure, offer some kind of warranty.
 

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allcarfan said:
I think there was a misunderstanding.....on a set of glass or plastic bumpers, sure, why not, id use the paint if it was as durable as autmotive paint. I meant there was nothing wrong with painting them. If you can get a smooth enough surface, I have seen chrome paint in a rattle can look good (on my rearend) - boy, did i leave myself open for that one.
Did you watch the video? I still think that stuff looks as good as real chrome from what I can see. How wild would it be to have your car chromed with that paint?
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That would be a pretty good idea, but I dont think you can clear that paint. It would dull the luster. Only time will tell if it is worth it
 

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Well, in my case, it'll be on a drag car that won't see bad weather, and will only be outside at the track (it's not a street legal car).
 
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Well, in my case, it'll be on a drag car that won't see bad weather, and will only be outside at the track (it's not a street legal car).
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I think you're chrome paint solution might be just a bit extreme for the original poster's question... did you check out the costs?

I think if I saw a shiny chrome car in the lane next to me, I'd have to protest for fear he was trying to blind me...
 

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HIGHJACKERS!!!!!



Kidding fellas! Thank you for the replies. I'm convinced that I'll just get the new door itself and but the mustang depot "stainless" kit on it
 

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GaPonyFarm said:
I think you're chrome paint solution might be just a bit extreme for the original poster's question... did you check out the costs?
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Yeah, but if you get ahold of Alsa, I'm sure they can get you in contact with a shop that uses their equipment. I'm sure as heck not going to buy $8000 worth of equipment to paint my bumpers.
 
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