Anyone who has any CAI numbers, please come in

[FalconGuy016]

I know I promised the last thread was the last one about this but it brought up nothing but more controversy.

A LOT of people say any CAI is worthless. I was wondering if anyone had any numbers to support this (personal or an online test somewhere)

I was wondering if anyone had numbers to support HP gains with CAI. I am talking about the MAC Straight Shot, but any CAI is good (personal tests or online test somewhere)

This would solve the problem immediately.

 

[tomustang]

CAI's are for looks, not for performance. most CAIS are more of Hot Air Inductions. metal heat sheilds etc..

 

[slow87GT]

JLT actually works

about the only one though

track proven

 

[FalconGuy016]

Cool


Does anyone have any numbers?
StangNet tech article says 17 HP+, MAC claims 25

There has to be something

 

[Sick96Stang]

Cool


Does anyone have any numbers?
StangNet tech article says 17 HP+, MAC claims 25

There has to be something

Haha you wont be getting 17 or 25 hp off a CAI. If you had an 03 cobra you would be getting around that off just a CAI but not on a GT. From personal experience I got the densecharger CAI and shaved .2 off my 1/4.

 

[FalconGuy016]

.2 is a nice jump, but I dont know how much a densecharger costs

 

[turboscrew]

Call Chuck at pro3i indus. about the mac straight shot. 1-866-gopro3i He'll give you some numbers.

 

[Beau]

straight shot makes its power by changing the MAF, leaning out your mixture or something. kind of a quick and dirty way to power. i have the JLT True CAI. its been dyno proven to make real power. check out svtperformance.com's 99-01 cobra section. personally i have dyno proven gains of 26.5 rwhp and 25 rwtq.
but i just know some internet experts will come in here and try to question those #'s

 

[Evenflow]

So CAI's pretty much do nothing for GT's

 

[FalconGuy016]

Hum, so the straight shot itself doesnt make power? I thought the straight shot made the power, and the MAF is seperate (even though it can be bought in a package). The Tech article talks about the CAI, not the MAF. Even then, I have an SCT tuner

 

[CanadaStang]

Before and after every mod I do to my Stang, I test the results with my Gtech Comp. and then record my results in my log book. This is how I test:
1) record 3 baseline runs. [ I add the total of the 3 runs, then divide by 3 to get the average]
2) install mod
3) reset EEC, then go for 20 min. run so the EEC can relearn
4) record 3 runs
I then remove the mod, do step #3, then record 3 more runs to see if they match my baseline run, go back, reinstall mod, then step #3 again before doing my final 3 runs. It's a little time consuming but it eliminates any errors, so I know weather the mod truely works or not. I did this test with my Mac fenderwell CAI, then retested with just the open K&N under the hood.Stock air intake with K&N and snorkle removed. And lastly, the Mac upper intake tube with stock airbox.
After a full day on testing, I found zero gains in any of the tests. On the bright side, I didn't find any loss in HP on any of the tests either.
I never tested any of the other CAIs, just the Mac.

 

[Stangsgrl]

I just dont get the CAI = 0 gains. All CAI's that I know of come with K&N air filters or some form of hi performance air filter. Simply swapping from the stock air filter to a K&N will net you 5-6hp. Granted its not the 25+ Cobras get , but its something.

 

[Beau]

So CAI's pretty much do nothing for GT's

probably not as muc as they do for 4V and blown motors.

 

[Beau]

Before and after every mod I do to my Stang, I test the results with my Gtech Comp. and then record my results in my log book. This is how I test:
1) record 3 baseline runs. [ I add the total of the 3 runs, then divide by 3 to get the average]
2) install mod
3) reset EEC, then go for 20 min. run so the EEC can relearn
4) record 3 runs
I then remove the mod, do step #3, then record 3 more runs to see if they match my baseline run, go back, reinstall mod, then step #3 again before doing my final 3 runs. It's a little time consuming but it eliminates any errors, so I know weather the mod truely works or not. I did this test with my Mac fenderwell CAI, then retested with just the open K&N under the hood.Stock air intake with K&N and snorkle removed. And lastly, the Mac upper intake tube with stock airbox.
After a full day on testing, I found zero gains in any of the tests. On the bright side, I didn't find any loss in HP on any of the tests either.
I never tested any of the other CAIs, just the Mac.

use a dyno not a GTech.

 

[Beau]

Hum, so the straight shot itself doesnt make power? I thought the straight shot made the power, and the MAF is seperate (even though it can be bought in a package). The Tech article talks about the CAI, not the MAF. Even then, I have an SCT tuner

i remember a thread in the svt section of this site about the MAC Straight Shot. UncleMeat posted up some info about how it makes its power. Thats where I got my info..he's definetly one to know the deal too. You could PM him and ask him what the deal is with it.

 

[CanadaStang]

I just dont get the CAI = 0 gains. All CAI's that I know of come with K&N air filters or some form of hi performance air filter. Simply swapping from the stock air filter to a K&N will net you 5-6hp. Granted its not the 25+ Cobras get , but its something.

Well, there may have been slight gains 1-2HP perhaps, but testing using 60ft times, 330ft times, 0-60, 1/8th mile, and 1/4 mile, there was no measurable difference, good or bad. I performed my tests using a new Frame filter,the K&N drop-in, and the Mac also uses the K&N.

 

[CanadaStang]

use a dyno not a GTech.

I've taken my Gtech Comp to the track with me a few times and it is always very very close, never exact, but within .005 to .01 and same with the mph. I don't live even remotely close to a Dyno, so this is as accurate as I can test.

 

[csledd]

i know for a lot of foreign cars the cai will make a nice extra noise. anybody notice anything extra like this for the stangs?

 

[Darkhorse845]

Well, there may have been slight gains 1-2HP perhaps, but testing using 60ft times, 330ft times, 0-60, 1/8th mile, and 1/4 mile, there was no measurable difference, good or bad. I performed my tests using a new Frame filter,the K&N drop-in, and the Mac also uses the K&N.

Yes, 1-2 HP gains if your lucky!

 

[tomustang]

i know for a lot of foreign cars the cai will make a nice extra noise. anybody notice anything extra like this for the stangs?

on any car it sounds as if you can actually hear the air getting sucked into the engine