Ok I'll play. I bought a nice looking stainless set of shorties on Ebay last year. Thick flanges, nice welds, good gaskets, good hardware. Bolted right up on the drivers side. Passenger side bolted right up to the head but would not seal at the H-pipe. I tried everything. One side, then the other. Persuasion, etc, etc. I emailed the seller. They will fit. I finally tool them off and laid the passenger header beside the old worn out leaking header I was replacing. The flange was welded on the new header WAY angled wrong. I was able to get a refund after I left bad feedback and sent them back. DON'T DO IT. I did. I learned. So after that with the idea of CHEAP still in my dumb thick skull I bought chrome BBK shorties that fit like a dream. The car has not seen the road all but for a few test runs and a year later they are so ugly that they scared my dog. When I finally find the urge to buy again they will be GOOD COATED headers.