AWSFA-12C's too cold?

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will be around 10.3-10.5 compression with all bolt on's, stage 1 cams and springs driven lightly hard to balls out on a weekly basis.

 

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should be ok, I ran 12C's on mine N/A and didn't have any issues and you do know thats only a 1/2 thread plug, right.....

 

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RandyStinchcomb said:

should be ok, I ran 12C's on mine N/A and didn't have any issues and you do know thats only a 1/2 thread plug, right.....

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there wasn't a full thread plug that was the right temp that the dealership could locate

 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:

there wasn't a full thread plug that was the right temp that the dealership could locate

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thats correct, not in a Motorcraft copper core. now they do have one thats full thread and that heat range, which is used on the 03/04 Cobra's....

when I went wth the SVO heads on mine, which are "full thread" I had togo to another brand (champion) toget the correct heat range for mine....

 

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RandyStinchcomb said:

thats correct, not in a Motorcraft copper core. now they do have one thats full thread and that heat range, which is used on the 03/04 Cobra's....

when I went wth the SVO heads on mine, which are "full thread" I had togo to another brand (champion) toget the correct heat range for mine....

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yeah, that's right huh? the full thread ons are platnum. I think these will work fine (i hope)

 

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Actually Ford does or at least they did have a full thread Copper plug in the 12 heat range. I have a set of 8 at home. When I go home, I will grab the number off of the box and post it. No, mine are not for sale, they are for my TBird...

 

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TGJ said:

Actually Ford does or at least they did have a full thread Copper plug in the 12 heat range. I have a set of 8 at home. When I go home, I will grab the number off of the box and post it. No, mine are not for sale, they are for my TBird...

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that Motorcraft plug was discontinued @6 years ago.....

 

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I don't see why you should run such a cold plug on a NA motor....

 

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I don't see why you should run such a cold plug on a NA motor....

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well normal drivers would use a 32 plug on a na car, recommended 24 stage for common spirited driving and often race track visits. So on a car with all bolts ons, cams, and much higher compression 24 is an option - but it's not exactly just spirited driving on a stock engine. So maybe it'd be 24 on a casual car with these mods and 12 on a spirted car + track time with these mods. Was my train of thought

 

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RandyStinchcomb said:

that Motorcraft plug was discontinued @6 years ago.....

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Well you mentioned on Modular Depot, 4 years, 2 months, and 3 days ago that it was discontinued but still available. The set I currently have, I was able to get in Sept 2006( roughly 1.5 yrs ago )...

 

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The part number is:

AGSF-12C

That is if anybody wants to check and see if the plug is still available. As mentioned, it is discontinued but dealers may still have some in stock...

 

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TGJ said:

The part number is:

AGSF-12C

That is if anybody wants to check and see if the plug is still available. As mentioned, it is discontinued but dealers may still have some in stock...

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that's the part number i had listed for him to get me, i ended up with these

 

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K, need some help. Looking into exchanging my AWSFA-12C's for a full thread plug which would have to be platinum, but i called the dealer - and they no longer have the AGSF-12EE's for sale (went on 03/04 cobra i believe) just the AGSF-12F-M1 which is the iridium/platinum fine wire electrode ones. Anyone know if these will work, or what i should get in NKG's instead?

 

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Maybe completely unrelated but if they are iridium like the NGK's that were in my wifes Celica GTS with like 12:1 compression, the tip is a fine as a hair almost. They tended to just melt down very quickly. Were suppose to be a 100k plug but were shot way before that. May would stay away. Not to mention for ngk iridium I payed almost 50 buck for 4 factory plugs at AZ.

 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:

K, need some help. Looking into exchanging my AWSFA-12C's for a full thread plug which would have to be platinum, but i called the dealer - and they no longer have the AGSF-12EE's for sale (went on 03/04 cobra i believe) just the AGSF-12F-M1 which is the iridium/platinum fine wire electrode ones. Anyone know if these will work, or what i should get in NKG's instead?

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I would look else-where, as I did wth my SVO headed 4.6 GT a few years back...now I get my Motorcraft plugs for free from one of my sponsers but due to the lack of proper heat ranges, I went wth Champions..... they offer a better selection of tips, electrodes and heat ranges....I used a Champion # 286 which has a Non projected tip, eventhough my car was N/A....

 

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Thanks Randy, was kinda waiting for your take on it. Not sure what i want to do, ford doesnt have champion plugs - so i'd still have these plugs and then buy champions at 4.50 a pop

 

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just wanted to bump this, local guy/friend has a 96GT running 540rwhp and uses 12c's - says they are too cold for my set up

I've seen 12c's used on pi swaps before. Do i just need to warm up my car longer?

 

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CobraRed_96_GT said:

just wanted to bump this, local guy/friend has a 96GT running 540rwhp and uses 12c's - says they are too cold for my set up

I've seen 12c's used on pi swaps before. Do i just need to warm up my car longer?

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to each his own, like I said I ran 12C's in mine N/A and ran 13.60's wth just bolt-on's on my 1996 GT....are you having some issues running the 12C's?

oh and is this guys name Royce?

 

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to each his own, like I said I ran 12C's in mine N/A and ran 13.60's wth just bolt-on's on my 1996 GT....are you having some issues running the 12C's?

oh and is this guys name Royce?

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I actually forgot now, hung out with him and a buncha guys saturday night. Goes by roorstiles on socalstangs.com and vortechdgt other places. It's actually 515rwhp/475rwtq tho

his car when we met up in Bahia:

I have no problem running 12c's, just want to make sure it's not too drastic for my app.