Back from the transmission shop!

Blown_Fox · Jun 23, 2004

The ol' Fox is getting new front and rear main seals, long tube headers, h-pipe, catback exhaust, tranny overhaul, shift kit, stall convertor and Ford Racing 3:73 gears. That thing is gonna be alive when it comes back from the shop considering the previous setup was a bone stock 90 GT AOD with 2:73's.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

3.73's in an auto??? man 4.10's really make an aod wake up, i love mine

87'GTstang · Jun 23, 2004

3.73's are still a fine choice, but 4.10 are the best for an auto setup (mind you your gas mileage suffers ) But you will still be pleased with them over the 2.73's no doubt.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

i only lost 1-3 mpg

v8only · Jun 23, 2004

people tend to go too aggressive on the gears to make up for a lack of engine. 3.73's will be great, and you'll still enjoy some highway action too.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

uh v8only excuse me but are you trying to tell me that the majority of people who put 4.10 in an automatic are "too aggressive". kinda sounds like a crock of crap to me

ECU5.0 · Jun 23, 2004

WantaGT said:
uh v8only excuse me but are you trying to tell me that the majority of people who put 4.10 in an automatic are "too aggressive". kinda sounds like a crock of crap to me

no, hes just saying you dont really need 4.10s if you have enough power.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

the way first gear is in an aod 4.10s are optimal

v8only · Jun 23, 2004

yes that's exactly what I'm telling you.

I have 3.73's in my 5 speed stang, and I like them because I don't do much highway travel anymore, but truthefully, they're too much. People have a tendency to put WAY too much gear in their cars. WHY?? because gears have such a drastic difference in quarter mile times and seat of the pants feel. Gears are NOT a replacement for real power adders such as heads/cam/intake and forced induction.

Truthefully, I miss the days of being able to go 80-85 mph and only be spinning 2k rpms, drop it into 4th, and slam the accelerator.

now I'm spinning 2500 rpms+ just to go freaking 70 or so. the car is a complete blast on the street, but driving on the freeway is now a chore. the 5.0 engine's sweet spot for cruising is 2000 rpms, and gears shove that way up closer to 3k on the freeway.

people imo are better off being slightly more conservative on the gear, and investing more into the actual engine so that they can enjoy their car more on the freeway.

The only reason I bring this up is because gears are a big $ investment. I really used to enjoy the freeway, and now my mustang is limited to speeds of 70 mph or so unless I want to tax the hell out of the engine.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

do you have an aod with 4.10's? dude i only spin like 2400 on the free way

v8only · Jun 23, 2004

an aod with 4.10s is about the same as a 5 speed with 3.73's (from what I understand)

2400 rpms isn't bad, but I bet that is speeds slower than 75. 2400 rpm still makes the car feel "uncomfortable" as the sweet spot is right at 2100 rpms (the drone)

it's not really as big a deal as I'm making it sound, and truthefully we should never be driving faster than 75 anyhow right???

just don't expect to be able to drop it into 4th when your doing 75-80 and a honda try's to prove himself to you. On a flip note, it's probably not super safe to kick it out of od at 80 with 4.10's

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

only if you wanna scatter a real expensive piece of equipment lol sorry if i can off jerk-like i'm just in a bad mood right now

RydeOn · Jun 23, 2004

I agree with v8only and Ive had that mentality all along. Now that I have my blower I have no need for 3.73's on my T5. My car hauls off the line, from a roll, top end (simply drop into 4th), whatever you want. Crusing is way chill too. Judging by the guys name, Blown Fox, I'd say the 3.73s on his auto will be just fine.

v8only · Jun 23, 2004

don't mind me either, I love debating and pushing peoples buttons

the only reason I brought this up actually because I am low budget (spend money on family) and have a bone stock long block with 186k miles.

after I put in my 3.73 gears, I have enough torque to drag california off the map, and now I REALLY realize how seriously my horespower is lacking, as it just quits making power up top in comparison to how fast the gears get the car going. I've also been fusterated a couple of times on the freeway when people hit me up, and I can no longer downshift to play.

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

see the majority of my driving is not freeway so i'm always in the powerband. it's awesome to hit it from like 1500 rpm or so and just pin you in the seat.

RydeOn · Jun 23, 2004

by the way Blown Fox, your car is going to be drastically different. You wont recongize it. I cant wait to hear about those results.

89MustangGX · Jun 23, 2004

v8only said:
I have 3.73's in my 5 speed stang, and I like them because I don't do much highway travel anymore, but truthefully, they're too much. People have a tendency to put WAY too much gear in their cars. WHY?? because gears have such a drastic difference in quarter mile times and seat of the pants feel. Gears are NOT a replacement for real power adders such as heads/cam/intake and forced induction.

I think you're approaching this wrong with your thinking. Gears should be matched to what the car is for. So if yours is for just cruising around, then maybe those are too much for you. If it's for a 1/4 mile car, then there's no need to consider what the engine will be running at while crusing on the highway at 75. Obviously if it's somewhere in the middle, you have to decide. So just because someone has more gear than you, doesn't mean they're "wrong" or their car setup doesn't work as well.

v8only · Jun 23, 2004

you're absolutely correct, and truthefully I'm gonna keep my gears unless I go blown someday.

the only thing I'm combatting is the typical "get 4.10's or get 3.73's" mentality. I see a million "what gear" questions and 9 out of 10 people will suggest the steepest possible gear, followed by a "I don't mind 2600 rpm on the freeway" without ever stopping to ask what the intended setup is.

in the original posters post, it appears he is blown, for that reason he shouldn't really go beyond the 3.73's, yet the first thing everyone said is how crazy he was for not doing the 4.10's

WantaGT · Jun 23, 2004

never called him crazy...

89MustangGX · Jun 23, 2004

v8only said:
you're absolutely correct, and truthefully I'm gonna keep my gears unless I go blown someday.

the only thing I'm combatting is the typical "get 4.10's or get 3.73's" mentality. I see a million "what gear" questions and 9 out of 10 people will suggest the steepest possible gear, followed by a "I don't mind 2600 rpm on the freeway" without ever stopping to ask what the intended setup is.

in the original posters post, it appears he is blown, for that reason he shouldn't really go beyond the 3.73's, yet the first thing everyone said is how crazy he was for not doing the 4.10's

I agree with not generalizing answers -- and for that reason, the first response should have been a question asking "What the heck are you planning on doing with this car and what kind of setup do you have now???" -- instead of just opinions.

Even a blower car can run some serious gears if the setup is right and needs them -- it all falls back on that.

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