BBK Performance SSI Intake

[mustangfan1990]

just courious what kind of numbers are you making with what mods? peace




john

Well they are in my sig my numbers. I have AFR 185 heads, trickflow stage 2 cam, BBK SSI intake, 42 lb injectors, 80mm MAF sensor, 70mm TB, FRPP 1.6 Roller rockers, Vortech V-2 Supercharger w/ 15 pounds of boost (no intercooler) dyno tune with SCT chip, 540 rwhp and 523 rwtq

 

[69shocktower]

rails

maybe your timing is off by a tooth this happen to me durning the second install.if you press the two fuel rails together with some auto silicone on the o-rings they should slide together tightly with no problem and not leak i have no leaks at all on mine.
the heater hose line is a little funny , i install an elbow in my intake then ran rubber heater hoses in place of the stock setup this gave me alot more room. now i did have to takke a little off the egr for it to fit,but other then that didnt have any problems

I dont know why i didnt compare before but just for fun im gonna see how impossible it would be to use the stock fuel rails. Even if i get the thing to seal, Im still gonna be checking for gas in the manifold valley everytime I get out of the car. What a PITA!
That is if I get the thing to run. The fact that it started and ran 3 times for about 30 seconds with my foot on the gas, should mean its timed close enuf to adjust. Its just gotta be. I really needed to sleep last night. Tonight I will be back at it.

 

[del.5.0 lx]

I dont know why i didnt compare before but just for fun im gonna see how impossible it would be to use the stock fuel rails. Even if i get the thing to seal, Im still gonna be checking for gas in the manifold valley everytime I get out of the car. What a PITA!
That is if I get the thing to run. The fact that it started and ran 3 times for about 30 seconds with my foot on the gas, should mean its timed close enuf to adjust. Its just gotta be. I really needed to sleep last night. Tonight I will be back at it.

thats what did durning the seconf install, start hard run as long as i gave it gas then die. timing was off a tooth. as for the stock fuel rails i'm not sure. car runs really good now.

 

[69shocktower]

manifoldie

the stock fuel rails wont fit with the SSI because the stock pressure regulator and the relocated EGR are in the same space.

the crossover tube was not going straight into the rail whwere it was leaking, needed to turn the tube until is was going straight in. we'll see if it still leaks. i would really like to be one of the "havent had a problem since..." guys. theres a lot of things about this that still seem like a weak design tho. the way the crossover tube seals. clearance issues all over. the machining is off so not everything lines up perfectly. they couldve changed the shape in minor ways to make it so much easier to install.

will see how it goes now with the tube straight. stay tuned!

 

[del.5.0 lx]

the stock fuel rails wont fit with the SSI because the stock pressure regulator and the relocated EGR are in the same space.

the crossover tube was not going straight into the rail whwere it was leaking, needed to turn the tube until is was going straight in. we'll see if it still leaks. i would really like to be one of the "havent had a problem since..." guys. theres a lot of things about this that still seem like a weak design tho. the way the crossover tube seals. clearance issues all over. the machining is off so not everything lines up perfectly. they couldve changed the shape in minor ways to make it so much easier to install.

will see how it goes now with the tube straight. stay tuned!

if my wife did this right this is a picture of the nipple/elbow i used to reroute the heater hoses that seem to hold the upper intake up and gives so much clearance problems hope this helps.

 

[69shocktower]

nipple?

if my wife did this right this is a picture of the nipple/elbow i used to reroute the heater hoses that seem to hold the upper intake up and gives so much clearance problems hope this helps.

so using some kind of fitting you just replaced the coolant pipes with rubber hoses? a wider shot would be more helpfull. but yeah if the hardware was available thats a good idea. those pipes suck.

 

[del.5.0 lx]

so using some kind of fitting you just replaced the coolant pipes with rubber hoses? a wider shot would be more helpfull. but yeah if the hardware was available thats a good idea. those pipes suck.

i tookthe fitting off the the pipes to napa and told them what i needed and they gave me an elbow to take its place, the i got a 3 feet section of 5/8 and a 3feet section of 3/4 heater hose and installed them from the fire wall to where they belonged. the temp sen. isnt installed but that can be done by cutting the pipe on each side and installing it in the hose.

 

[04gtboy]

Get a spacer that goes between the the upper & lower from summit & your problem will be solved with your pipe clearance !As long as you dont have hood clearance problems !

 

[69shocktower]

timing IAC Spacer or MAF

thats what did durning the seconf install, start hard run as long as i gave it gas then die. timing was off a tooth. as for the stock fuel rails i'm not sure. car runs really good now.

ok, so i shaved 1 or 2/16 off the fuel rail spacers, put RTV on the O rings to solve the fuel leak problem. Timing is not a problem because I reset to TDC and the mark i made on the distributor before dismantleing is dead on. and once again, she started 3-5 times. idled realy crappy and surged and then wouldnt start again. so from friend suggestions its either need the IAC spacer or prob with the MAF which is a PRO-M calibrated MAF.

Im gonna order an IAC spacer just to see if that will fix it. and the fuel gauge wouldnt go lower than 34lbs. So WTF? Any ideas?

Thanks

 

[mustangfan1990]

ok, so i shaved 1 or 2/16 off the fuel rail spacers, put RTV on the O rings to solve the fuel leak problem. Timing is not a problem because I reset to TDC and the mark i made on the distributor before dismantleing is dead on. and once again, she started 3-5 times. idled realy crappy and surged and then wouldnt start again. so from friend suggestions its either need the IAC spacer or prob with the MAF which is a PRO-M calibrated MAF.

Im gonna order an IAC spacer just to see if that will fix it. and the fuel gauge wouldnt go lower than 34lbs. So WTF? Any ideas?

Thanks

Well your fuel pressure shouldnt go below 34. Sounds like you could have a gasket leak(vaccum leak) somewhere did you check those good. MAF could have something to do with it. What size injectors are you running? sometimes with my injectors the car wont crank unless you hold the gas pedal to the floor. but thats with 42s dont think you will have that problem with 19s or 24s. I would check the MAF and clean the sensor. Also inplug your IAC when it is idling and see if it makes a difference

 

[69shocktower]

timing IAC Spacer or MAF

Well your fuel pressure shouldnt go below 34. Sounds like you could have a gasket leak(vaccum leak) somewhere did you check those good. MAF could have something to do with it. What size injectors are you running? sometimes with my injectors the car wont crank unless you hold the gas pedal to the floor. but thats with 42s dont think you will have that problem with 19s or 24s. I would check the MAF and clean the sensor. Also inplug your IAC when it is idling and see if it makes a difference

Ive got brand new MAF to match FR 24lb injectors, vacuum should be peachy, I installed a vacuum can with a gauge and its showing 10-15.

I will try unplugging the IAC

 

[del.5.0 lx]

Get a spacer that goes between the the upper & lower from summit & your problem will be solved with your pipe clearance !As long as you dont have hood clearance problems !

i didnt use a spacer between the two manifolds and still cant use the stock hood. i have a 4 inch cowl hood on for now but it wont pass inspection so im still going to have to buy another hood. plus my way works just as good as the spaceras fsr as clearance is concerned and alot less exspensive.

 

[69shocktower]

strut tower brace??

Has anyone with a bbkssi been able to find a cross tower brace that will fit over this intake? The cobra one seems to fit around a lot of stuff. Not apposed to having to modify one either.

 

[69shocktower]

strut tower brace??

i didnt use a spacer between the two manifolds and still cant use the stock hood. i have a 4 inch cowl hood on for now but it wont pass inspection so im still going to have to buy another hood. plus my way works just as good as the spaceras fsr as clearance is concerned and alot less exspensive.

Looks like my IAC is bad, is crazy cause it was working just 6 weeks ago or so before i started tearing the engine apart. But now it looks like the heart of my starting problems after getting the new heads, cam and intake on.

If anyone here knows the ins and outs of IACs I started a new thread but here:

Is it possible to test an IAC to see if its bad? Or to test to see if
signal is going through it?

Also, it looks like the wire harness connection is 2 positives and
then the negative ground is through the bolts to the throttle body?


Any info would be appreciated. Thanks,

Has anyone been able to fit a strut tower brace over this intake? looks like the cobra brace will fit over a lot of stuff but this is sucha radical intake. If anyone has let me know which one, or if you had to modify one or whatever. Thanks,

 

[del.5.0 lx]

i'll be going back to the track tomorrow since it's been raining here on fridays for the past two weeks. i'll let you all know what the car runs after fixing vacuum leake. hopefully it'll do better then 13.84

 

[69shocktower]

shes runnin!

After replaced IAC still wouldnt idle so installed IAC spacer and it runs pretty good at 12 BTDC, TPS is set low, fuel pressure about 35-40 psi.

Only thing now is when stopping, put the clutch in and brake, when the RPMs hit bottom it will die if I dont feather the gas. Tried to adjust IAC spacer screws to let more air in but then the idle gets worse.

Ill have to add all this stuff to my sig now

 

[04gtboy]

I had to adjust my throttle postion sensor !It didnt stall but idled like crap .Adjusted that and it idles fine even with X303 cam !

 

[del.5.0 lx]

ok went to track first pass [email protected] timing @14 tps@8 track temp 167, humidity 130 baro 31.25
second pass [email protected] timing@22 tps@9 tires @21 track temp 167,humidity130,[email protected]
third pass [email protected] timing@22,tps@5 tires @21 track temp 167,humidity 130,baro 31.25
still not 13.844 but spun about 20 feet on third pass and not thinking ...like a dummy i let out at about 1100 feet. to busy watching the camaro blow by me @11.140,@120.08 lol he hit brakes and not thinking i lifted
my wife asked why herself after watching the video and said i was a dummy.lol

 

[del.5.0 lx]

bbk intake coming off and stock going back on . if im only going to run a 13.9 then i'll be ok with the stock. plus there's about a qourt of laying in ths lower intake as i write this and the intake is some how sucking oil into it's self and pushing it into the combustion chambers making my car smoke.
so it has to go