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What is it?
 

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Unfortunately, I think the only legal mid-pipe in Cali is the factory one. Even with a catted mid-pipe, you would fail visual (if they checked) because the factory H-pipe has 6 cats I believe, and the aftermarket ones come with only 2.
 

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Would this also be true for the Dallas/Fort Worth area? We do the sniffer test here. Anybody know?
 

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decoy562 said:
Unfortunately, I think the only legal mid-pipe in Cali is the factory one. Even with a catted mid-pipe, you would fail visual (if they checked) because the factory H-pipe has 6 cats I believe, and the aftermarket ones come with only 2.
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I believe you are correct, except the number of cats. I believe that with the 99+ cars they went to a 4-cat H (prior to that it was 6). I may be wrong about the exact crossover point, but I know my car has 4 -- and they used to have 6.
 

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some 99+ H's have 6...some 2. what about the magnaflow X does that have that carb/ 50 state legal thing? im just throwin it out there im not sure.
 

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none of them are legal that I know of for cali!
 

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mike2858 said:
some 99+ H's have 6...some 2. what about the magnaflow X does that have that carb/ 50 state legal thing? im just throwin it out there im not sure.
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I have been dealing with the CA CARB BS for some time now. The Magnaflow will pass the sniffer but fail visual (per magna rep) There is NO LEGAL mid pipe for CA sorry to say. I would just toss an o/r pipe and keep the old set up for smog time. Just remember you need to have the factory stuff on for a few hundred miles or you'll fail due to inconclusive data. If you know a smog "friendly" shop, go with the magnaflow catted X. I'm STILL up in the air about either a Bassani o/r X or Magnaflow catted X. I may never decide
 

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03GTvert said:
Would this also be true for the Dallas/Fort Worth area? We do the sniffer test here. Anybody know?
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Texas probably does it right...they just pay attention to the actual emmissions coming out of your tailpipe. Unfortunately, here in California, we have a bunch of tree hugging lunatics that have forgotten about common sense (e.g., paying attention to emmissions) and are more concerned with growing our government by way of CARB and our lame emmissions testing requirements, including visual testing!!!!!!!! It can be summed up in one word: RETARDED!
 
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I have been dealing with the CA CARB BS for some time now. The Magnaflow will pass the sniffer but fail visual (per magna rep) There is NO LEGAL mid pipe for CA sorry to say. I would just toss an o/r pipe and keep the old set up for smog time. Just remember you need to have the factory stuff on for a few hundred miles or you'll fail due to inconclusive data. If you know a smog "friendly" shop, go with the magnaflow catted X. I'm STILL up in the air about either a Bassani o/r X or Magnaflow catted X. I may never decide
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I passed smog in January....

Brandon
 

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I passed smog in January....

Brandon
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Brandon,

Your car is pre 98 so you didn't have as intense of a smog check as required with OBDII equiped vehicles. However, congratulations!

Norm
 

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CARB is scary here in CA! Watch out for OBDIII

Check out this scary quote regarding OBDIII proposals:

There is now a OBD3 proposal which will have the cars reporting pollution violations themselves via radio.
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Talk about big brother here in California. To those in other states, please see California as an example of big government!

Here's the actual website I pulled the quote from:
http://www.cardlabs.com/CardLabs_obd2.htm

Norm
 

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03GTvert said:
Would this also be true for the Dallas/Fort Worth area? We do the sniffer test here. Anybody know?
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I dont think Texas does the sniffer test yet. I'm pretty sure all they do is the visual. all they checked on my car was the lights and horn when i got it inspected at the beginning of this month! they didnt even drive it LOL! no complaints here cause i didnt have some punk get a joy ride in my car.
 

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the magnaflow tru-x will pass emissions because it goes on after the last set of cats, right before the cat-back. its a tiny x pipe and since it doesn't change the stock amount of cats, you are ok.


and yes, cali emissions regulations are pathetic
 

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1990StangLX said:
the magnaflow tru-x will pass emissions because it goes on after the last set of cats, right before the cat-back. its a tiny x pipe and since it doesn't change the stock amount of cats, you are ok.


and yes, cali emissions regulations are pathetic
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Only problem with this pipe is...it doesn't do jack crap Same restriction is there due to the 423543255385243 cats on our cars. The whole point of a mid pipe change is for performance and sound. I don't think either are accomplished by that pipe. No flame bro, I just think that pipe is a silly and pointless mod since nothing is achieved except getting a magnaflow sticker.
 

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Blev said:
Only problem with this pipe is...it doesn't do jack crap Same restriction is there due to the 423543255385243 cats on our cars. The whole point of a mid pipe change is for performance and sound. I don't think either are accomplished by that pipe. No flame bro, I just think that pipe is a silly and pointless mod since nothing is achieved except getting a magnaflow sticker.
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and thats the reason i don't have one and don't plan on buying one

if someone sends me one i'll dyno it on my stock exhaust and post up the results but in all honesty what you said is exactly right, the problem lies with the cats and something that small simply cannot have any appreciable effect on either sound or power.
 

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Blev said:
I just think that pipe is a silly and pointless mod since nothing is achieved except getting a magnaflow sticker.
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Come on...the sticker is worth at least 30 simulated horsepower in the ricer crowd. However, the sticker must be mounted on your front fender or door to maximize simulated output!
 

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You sound like a good conservative living in the wrong state my friend! Come to Texas! No tree huggers here.
 

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Come on...the sticker is worth at least 30 simulated horsepower in the ricer crowd. However, the sticker must be mounted on your front fender or door to maximize simulated output!
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Let's talk about ricers and their stickers!

Coming home today on the freway, this idiot in a white civic with every fricken sticker and every piece of body kit he could fit tried to act hot for his chick. I swear, the car was white, the hood was black and was like 10 inches higher than stock with two big scoops on it, and blue ground effect kit all the way around. Anyhow, I'm cruising about 80 in the fast lane and he rides up on my ass so I let off the gas and he keeps on my ass. So I took the OD off (automatic) to slow down more. I guess he thought I wanted to race cuz my exhaust got a bit louder when I flipped off the OD. So he pulls up next to me and starts reving. I start laughing, he rolls down his window and starts tossing his hand in the air so I rolled down my window and was like you go and I'll try and keep up. So he rolls his window up and says something to his girlfriend. I'm sure it was something along the lines of watch me smoke this guy. So he punches it and swerves if front of me. So I punched it and pulled into the middle lane and rolled my window down and was like, whenever your ready.....He has this serious look on his face while his chick is looking at me and I just boned the hell out. I got up to about 120 and let up, needless to say he didn't try to catch back up to me. I think he's at home now adding some more stickers.

Sorry for jacking this post with a story that belongs in talk.
 
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My 99 with Bassani Catted X passed smog in CA both times I have taken it in. Visual and sniffer. The smog guy was more worried about the CARB # for the Vortech.
 

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My 99 with Bassani Catted X passed smog in CA both times I have taken it in. Visual and sniffer. The smog guy was more worried about the CARB # for the Vortech.
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You PASSED with the Bassani catted X???? Is it with the crapco cats or the new ones?

Holy crap!!! I might stay a Bassani whore after all.
 
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