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65inworks

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i am putting a 5.0 engine in my 65 coupe with a t5 . I am thinking about buying a vortech superchager for my system. The only thing that i am unsure of is what type of induction to run, I know that efi will be more efficient and all that but will there be any power difference between efi + blower or carb + carb hat + blower. The only reason i ask is because there is about 1500 dollars difference between the efi and carb stuff
 

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65inworks said:
i am putting a 5.0 engine in my 65 coupe with a t5 . I am thinking about buying a vortech superchager for my system. The only thing that i am unsure of is what type of induction to run, I know that efi will be more efficient and all that but will there be any power difference between efi + blower or carb + carb hat + blower. The only reason i ask is because there is about 1500 dollars difference between the efi and carb stuff
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www.fordmuscle.com has an article about a supercharger that they are attaching to a carb. Interesting reading.
 

allcarfan

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Paxtonsuperchargers.com also has a kit for carbed engines in early model mustangs. The polished kit costs $2800. You can see on their site what all is included. Their listed price is 3195....but you can get them cheaper.

Shane
 
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slapper

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65inworks said:
i am putting a 5.0 engine in my 65 coupe with a t5 . I am thinking about buying a vortech superchager for my system. The only thing that i am unsure of is what type of induction to run, I know that efi will be more efficient and all that but will there be any power difference between efi + blower or carb + carb hat + blower. The only reason i ask is because there is about 1500 dollars difference between the efi and carb stuff
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It depends on how much power to intend to make, regarding the induction system.
With a 5.0 block, I would not suggest that you go for 600 RWHP, as the block will be stressed to the point of unreliability. Also, second gear in a standard T5, or even a T5Z, will not last that long with alot of power. Anyway,.....
I'm running a blow-through system with a bonnet, and one of the issues I come across is equal fuel distribution. With a blow-through system, or any wet flow, the intake manifold design seams much more critical. Single planes seem to equal the cylinders more than dual planes.
Anyway, no reason for a novel......
IMO, you will realize no difference between efi and blow-through, unless you intend to run this machine to the limit of competition.
P.S. the carb stuff is easy.
 
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mtbdoc

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Another approach

I am currently assembling my Kenne Bell S/C motor for my '66 'vert; using fuel injection from a 5.0. My original plan was a motor and tranny from a late model 'stang, but as the power goals increased, I realized that the T5z I had purchased (in an '89 donor car) wouldn't handle it...and needed more head flow...and then found a great deal on a 331 stroker in sportsman block...you get the idea. As it turns out, I will end up using virtually NOTHING but the computer (with altered outputs via a TwEECer system) in this car. So all of those parts will go in my '65 2+2.

During all of this, I did a lot of looking around on ebay. My conclusion: you could (with some care!) convert a classic to a fuel injected motor at a fairly reasonable cost, and then, you are OPTIMALLY set up to run a boosted application. My decision there was the Kenne Bell...you can find a lot of good info on the power adder board about these beasts.

Even a junkyard could likely yield everything needed for a 350hp EFI 289 for a reasonable amount of $$$.
 

ddonaca351

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imho... buy a Tremec now and save alott of head ache in the long run.
A t-5 will not live behind any power for long (400+) heck, most of them don't live very well behind 300hp n/a motors.

DD
 
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Cantedvalve

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65inworks said:
i am putting a 5.0 engine in my 65 coupe with a t5 . I am thinking about buying a vortech superchager for my system. The only thing that i am unsure of is what type of induction to run, I know that efi will be more efficient and all that but will there be any power difference between efi + blower or carb + carb hat + blower. The only reason i ask is because there is about 1500 dollars difference between the efi and carb stuff
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I was under the impression that Vortech didnt had a carb kit for the SBF... unless you count the Paxton 1001839 or 1001840 kits... since Vortech owns Paxton... then I guess they do!
 
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Cantedvalve said:
I was under the impression that Vortech didnt had a carb kit for the SBF... unless you count the Paxton 1001839 or 1001840 kits... since Vortech owns Paxton... then I guess they do!
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I don't think they do.
Procharger has a kit for a small block chevy, with a crank pulley, and I usually make a mounting bracket with a manually adjustable idler pulley, rather than buy their $270 bracket. Ducting is non-specific for year and model, and bonnets can be sourced separately.
 
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MTD U USING THE 2200 BLOWER?THATS THE ROUTE I WAS PLANNING ON BUT COULD GET NO ANSWERS AS TO HOOD CLEARANCE I HAVE A 3 INCH COWEL HOOD COMING WILL IT FIT UNDER THAT?
 
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Cantedvalve

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INDSKYS said:
MTD U USING THE 2200 BLOWER?THATS THE ROUTE I WAS PLANNING ON BUT COULD GET NO ANSWERS AS TO HOOD CLEARANCE I HAVE A 3 INCH COWEL HOOD COMING WILL IT FIT UNDER THAT?
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What's a 2200? You mean a 1200?
 
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65inworks

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blower

check out the fordmuscle.com site
 
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speedy66

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Heres my .02.. I have friends that run both.. Most of the guys I hang out with are fox body guys..

1. Carbs need a ton of tuning especially with blow through carbs. Vortec does not make a blow throughs setup for SBF to my knowledge but.. YOu can by a blower hat through www.superchargersonline.com and do a custom setup. To my knowledge u have to use a holley style carb.. which always require tinkering.. I dont think you can use an edelbrock or carter on a blowthrough s/c system

2. Efi superchargers are easier to tune..I personally and saving up money to do an Efi swap then going to do a Vortec S trim blower set up on mine.
 
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customperforman

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allcarfan said:
Paxtonsuperchargers.com also has a kit for carbed engines in early model mustangs. The polished kit costs $2800. You can see on their site what all is included. Their listed price is 3195....but you can get them cheaper.

Shane
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Talk to the guys at superchargers4less.com. Im getting mine for $2400
 
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