building a stroker

tannerc91gt · May 8, 2009

I've been wanting to build a 331 or 347 for the car in my sig. Ill be purchasing a DSS shortblock soon and was wondering if anyone knew the best setup to run on this H/C/I wise, and what kind of power to expect
Or if I would be better off with a 351W? Any advice would help.

strtrcr50 · May 8, 2009

Best piece of advise I can give you is do NOT buy a stroker from DSS. Look around all the mustang sites and see what kind of experience people have with them. Either go with rnhperformance.com or fordstrokers.com Either one will be a MUCH better built motor for less money. Also, either one of them will recommend you a top end setup and a custom cam.

TwoToneHatch · May 8, 2009

I agree with strtrcr50. Don't Buy Fromm DSS! I've heard nothing but horror stories and bad experiences from people who have dealt with them.

95Vert383AOD · May 8, 2009

If youre building a performance stroker with aftermarket H/C/I then go 351. Buildup from scratch is about the same as a 302. Hardest part is locating a 351...i got a complete one from a 97 truck with 90k on it in a junk yard $650. Got a Eagle kit with a 4340 crank, h beam rods and SRP forged pistons for $1200....Bout the same price as any 302 quality stroker kit. I had the block hot tanked, bored/plate honed/ balanced blueprinted with heads assembled labor was a little over $1000 (You do want the bottom end assembled by a qualified machinist) But if you go 351 or higher you should have a AFR 205 or better for heads if you want maximum performance out of it. Heads will be the single most expensive thing you buy inless you get a Man O War block. But any stock 351 is more than capable of handling 500+ HP if built properly. 94-97 blocks benefit from factory roller lifters....no retro fitting cams. But they are weaker than the older blocks...but not by a whole lot. My goal is 600rwhp streetable on forced induction.

tannerc91gt · May 8, 2009

ill definitly look into that. My other question was how much of a price different would I be looking at if I took a 351 and stroked that? How compatable is it with a T5 and what else would I need to do to use the 351 block other than bellhousing? A lot of questions, I know, but if I'm gonna shell out the big bucks I might as well do it right

91ghp5.0 · May 8, 2009

You will want to upgrade from a stock T5, because you will MURDER yours with the torque a 351w stroker will make.

89stang1 · May 8, 2009

Talk to Rick from RNH P. the sites in my sig, sure made some great power on the dyno with my 331

S&B · May 8, 2009

I would go with a 408 if i were going that route, the kit will cost more everything else would be the same, then you'll be happy with the power n/a and life will be good, you will need to upgrade your whole drivetrain which is good b/c you will be able to get it together and then slip it in after you swap the accy. over.

sell the 5.0 engine and trans to make some $$ back should be able to get 700 bucks for the engine and trans.

mwood · May 10, 2009

I vote a 347 done right. Fordstrokers bottom end, camshaftinnovations top end. Something like a 10.5/1 forged lower ported twisted wedge or canfield with a vc jr or super vc intake, ci custom cam, 850-950 carb, should be knocking on 500 hp.

PS, I'm building a 408 myself.

95Vert383AOD · May 10, 2009

91ghp5.0 said:
You will want to upgrade from a stock T5, because you will MURDER yours with the torque a 351w stroker will make.

Hahaaa

I think this statement alone is the decision maker on a 351

If you're not "MURDERING" a T5 its a waste of a stroker build!!!

Unless of course you don't like power.

Chris

mwood · May 10, 2009

That is true, between the full motor build, trans, and any other parts I hope you have considered the budget.

5.0Droptop · May 10, 2009

Do not buy DSS. This cannot be said enough.

1991notchbackLX · May 10, 2009

i agree with every post in this thread... woody from fordstrokers and jay allen from CI will set you up right, when my coupe gets its 408 those are the two guys i'm giving my money to

Shaolin Crane · May 10, 2009

Hey guys, your not giving DSS enough credit....they do make really cool looking door stops

bynummustang · May 10, 2009

Shaolin Crane said:
Hey guys, your not giving DSS enough credit....they do make really cool looking door stops

And good boat anchors.

Shaolin Crane · May 10, 2009

bynummustang said:
And good boat anchors.

hahaha

stang9150 · May 11, 2009

I have the dss 331 kit and have had the motor together for over 2 years with no issues.Anywhere on the internet you can find bad stories about any company,just my thoughts.

Shaolin Crane · May 11, 2009

stang9150 said:
I have the dss 331 kit and have had the motor together for over 2 years with no issues.Anywhere on the internet you can find bad stories about any company,just my thoughts.

yeah maybe, but what setup are you running on your car?

stang9150 · May 12, 2009

Motor is a stock block,dss rotating assembly,9:1 cr, afr 185 heads,Custom FtI cam, performer intake (coming off very soon).I will be adding the vortec s trim in the near future.The car is DD so once i got the motor built and in its been hard to take it down again.Parts waiting to go on are in the garage .

Shaolin Crane · May 12, 2009

stang9150 said:
Motor is a stock block,dss rotating assembly,9:1 cr, afr 185 heads,Custom FtI cam, performer intake (coming off very soon).I will be adding the vortec s trim in the near future.The car is DD so once i got the motor built and in its been hard to take it down again.Parts waiting to go on are in the garage .

seems like a pretty mild setup, but your gonna have issues when putting that s trim on

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