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Buy a used S197 GT or a NEW V6????

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daemon-hunter

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I was in the same boat as you in August, I wanted to choose either a brand new 2011 V6 or an older GT. Now, if you like the look of the 2010-2011, you should get the 2011 V6, since you get the best of both worlds. Equivalent power, fuel economy, looks, etc...

I instead found a great 2008 GT/CS in Grabber Orange for much cheaper(GTs typically have the bells and whitles such as leather seats). Since I prefer the look of the 2005-2009 versus the new model and I love the color.

I wanted a drive around car that looked great, also the sound of a V8 is just amazing and a GT is always an icon, not to bash the V6 but the 2005-2010 were so bad for performance that it tarnishes the brand a bit.

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daemon-hunter said:
not to bash the V6 but the 2005-2010 were so bad for performance that it tarnishes the brand a bit.
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I dunno....the '94-'98 V6 was probably the worst performer out of all of them. How about the '87-93 2.3L I-4....or the 115hp 3.8L V6 models before that.

I'd think besides the latest 3.7L TiVCT, the previous '05-'10's were the best of the base model offereings.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
I dunno....the '94-'98 V6 was probably the worst performer out of all of them. How about the '87-93 2.3L I-4....or the 115hp 3.8L V6 models before that.

I'd think besides the latest 3.7L TiVCT, the previous '05-'10's were the best of the base model offereings.
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115 hp 3.8 V6 =
 

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Toms_2003_Stang said:
115 hp 3.8 V6 =
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You're telling me. I had one in my '83 Mustang L. Got not bad mileage though. Not to bad once you got it moving either...but man it was no torque monster down low. Still probably my favorite car to date.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
I dunno....the '94-'98 V6 was probably the worst performer out of all of them. How about the '87-93 2.3L I-4....or the 115hp 3.8L V6 models before that.

I'd think besides the latest 3.7L TiVCT, the previous '05-'10's were the best of the base model offereings.
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lol hey now leave the 2.3 out of this i will take a turbo svo or non mustang but turbo chicken anyday. though without that all important turbo yeah they're nothing special. but dear god the 3.8s were bad. drove my friends one day and i thought i screwed something up then he got in and i asked. lol in his words " no its fine just really really slow."
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
You're telling me. I had one in my '83 Mustang L. Got not bad mileage though. Not to bad once you got it moving either...but man it was no torque monster down low. Still probably my favorite car to date.
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2 barrel carb?
 

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MakotoS13 said:
thats really irrelevant since im mainly talking about the duratec motors.

i thought the 5.0 was all revised and stuff, oh well. in any case, the evolutionary thing still applies. i wasn't knocking the 4.6 at all, of course it has tons of performance potential but for every ten thousand kids on the internet that parrot that maybe one guy actually explores that potential.
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The 5.0 was designed to be able to be manufactured on the same machines as the 4.6. Hence the Cylinder spacing and many other dimensions are identical. The 5.0 has the same bell housing bolt up and motor mounts as the 4.6. A 5.0 Coyote should be able to basically bolt into an 05-10 car with only minor supporting tweeks. At least that is what I gather from my studies. I think of the 5.0 as being an incremental improvement in design not some radical departure. I am still waiting for all the early adopters to wrung out the bugs. From what I have been reading the new design has not been without.
 

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Toms_2003_Stang said:
2 barrel carb?
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I believe it was, yes. Did for even make a 4-barrel carb for the 3.8L
 
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MakotoS13 said:
imo its not worth it. you'll get worse mpg, an engine that requires more maintenance, a tranny that isn't as good, and a car that doesn't handle as good for the same price as a V6.

they would have to take off much more than it would be worth to them for it to be worth it to me (and most guys that are diggin the 30mpg 13 second mustang idea).
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Let's see. Get the new body style, a tried and true motor that has more room to grow than the new V6, a transmission that isn't made in China, and you're not driving a chick car.
You can get 2010 GT premiums for dirt cheap. I got mine for ~$27.5K OTD
 
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Get the new v6.. It's an excellent car in every aspect: performance, insurance, price... And imo it sounds alright from the factory but if you want the v8 sound, just find the right exhaust
 

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Mr.Scott said:
Let's see. Get the new body style, a tried and true motor that has more room to grow than the new V6, a transmission that isn't made in China, and you're not driving a chick car.
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so the same car as a GT that is faster than most other GT's but its minus 2 cylinders is a chick car? lol right.
 

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Find a dealer that has both and drive them back to back for 15 mins each in real world traffic....then report back.
 

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MakotoS13 said:
so the same car as a GT that is faster than most other GT's but its minus 2 cylinders is a chick car? lol right.
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Still trying, huh.

I believe Blade put it best, when he said...

"Some mother*******'s always trying to ice skate uphill"
 
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