Can DIABLO read existing tune?
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hognutz said:
the old tune shifted at red line at WOT for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. i am getting ready to lower the rev limiter and likely the shift points as well. already pulled timing down to 8.5 from 10% because of pinging. dataloged today but cant make too much of it yet. i know what all was logged just not sure how to put it all together yet. i know that without a dyno and/or a wideband (not to mention some experience) there is only so much i can do but i intend to do as much as i can. thanks for the info btw!
hognutz
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vld said:the old tune shifted at red line at WOT for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. i am getting ready to lower the rev limiter and likely the shift points as well. already pulled timing down to 8.5 from 10% because of pinging. dataloged today but cant make too much of it yet. i know what all was logged just not sure how to put it all together yet. i know that without a dyno and/or a wideband (not to mention some experience) there is only so much i can do but i intend to do as much as i can. thanks for the info btw!
yeah most likely the performace tune of the diablo has lowered your shift point because stock the car actually shifts a bit on the late side. My GT is a 5 speed but I have had f-body's that were auto's and almost all aftermarket tunners will drop your shift points a bit and you will actaully run faster even though it seems wierd to have it shift that early.
Kilgore Trout said:Just call Diabo technical support and ask them the question
And be sure to post it up
Two steps ahead of you!
I agree with those that said you shouldn't put the tuner on the car if you suspect it has a custom tune and no way to return it to stock. Seeing that some of you disagreed with this, I emailed Diablo Sport and asked. I stayed out of this thread until I got the answer.
Now every single one of you that said it should not cause any problems, QUIT POSTING TECH, all you are going to do is cause someone who listens to you to possibly lose their motor.
The question posed to Diablo.
The reply I got from Diablo.
propellerhead
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I've had much better responses from their forum on ModularFords.com.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/diablo-sport/
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/diablo-sport/
jstreet0204
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TGJ said:Now every single one of you that said it should not cause any problems, QUIT POSTING TECH, all you are going to do is cause someone who listens to you to possibly lose their motor.
When you spend a few years learning all of the parameters in the EEC and how they work, then you can tell someone to stop posting tech. As I stated earlier, it would be no different than modifying any performance tune, including the one that comes with the predator. Do a search in the saleen forums there are plenty of them that use the xcal with the modifed saleen tune. As far as someone losing their motor, if you don't know what you are doing, you shouldn't be doing it. And in no way will adding to "maximized" values hurt the EEC. They are simply values stored in database tables. Could it hurt the engine? Yes, but if you know your fuel or timing may already be modified, you'd have to be a dumb ass to go in and push the all of fuel and timing all the way up with out knowing where you stand. If you don't have any more common sense than that, you need to do yourself a favor and just get a chip. As far as if it will load it or not, he still didn't give you a definative answer. So I looked it up for you. If you have a modified flash tune you will need to go to a ford dealership and have them reflash the eec with the stock tune and go from there. The xcal2 does not however require it to be reflashed so that may be a better option for some.
jstreet0204 said:
I have spent years researching and listening to top tuners such as JW and Chris Johnson from SCT, long before they even got together and developed SCT. So don't be ASSUMING you that I don't know what I am talking about. I have used SCT's tools as well as Diablo's. Before I responded in this thread, I made sure I was correct in my assumptions with the Diablo Predator product. Did you read the response I got from Diablo? I will take THEIR WORD REGARDING THEIR PRODUCT over YOURS everyday day of the week, twice on sunday.
their word means bull5hit until you buy their product, diablsport sucks, they don't even come into the 4.6 section but are here for the S197 guys.TGJ said:
tomustang said:their word means bull5hit until you buy their product, diablsport sucks, they don't even come into the 4.6 section but are here for the S197 guys.
I use SCT in my Fords, and have been quite critical of Diablo in the past regarding their products. That said, I will still give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the info on their products.
still waiting for a reply from diablo. in the interim though i think i may have figured out the pinging. when i got diablo i had literally just filled her up with reg. since i couldnt wait a week or better to burn through and entire tank i ran up and got a bottle of stp octane booster. i have been told that may not have been enough to boost octane to where it needed to be to support the tune and spark advance. 
. so now i am burning out the last of the reg, i'll fill her up with 93 and reinstall the tune and see what happens. still have no idea how the 3.55s are dialed in, cant find a speedcal, at least not in the center console. monday i am going to call the local dealer and see what he has to say about dialing in gears. thanks for all the help yall.
. so now i am burning out the last of the reg, i'll fill her up with 93 and reinstall the tune and see what happens. still have no idea how the 3.55s are dialed in, cant find a speedcal, at least not in the center console. monday i am going to call the local dealer and see what he has to say about dialing in gears. thanks for all the help yall.there are some really good deals out there on sct right now. i have considered selling the diablo and going to sct. i am going to wait and see how this pans out first. my deal with sct is i am not likely to ever want to take advantage of all of the tuning options available with sct. i also got a really good deal on the diablo
here is the response from Diablo:
ANSWER:
Dear Edward,
If you try to install the Predator and there already is a tune installed it will not allow it. The Predator has to check to make sure there is no tunes already there so have no fear. Just give it a try and you will find out.
Thank you for your interest in DiabloSport!
Stay tuned,
Brian Kenig, a proud member of the DiabloSport Support Team
ANSWER:
Dear Edward,
If you try to install the Predator and there already is a tune installed it will not allow it. The Predator has to check to make sure there is no tunes already there so have no fear. Just give it a try and you will find out.
Thank you for your interest in DiabloSport!
Stay tuned,
Brian Kenig, a proud member of the DiabloSport Support Team
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