helty said:Another cool thing about the MPH kits is that if you already have an X-Cal 2, Tim will knockoff something like $130 off the cost and you just send him your tuner, then he'll upload his tunes.
That is not a complete kit. You will still need to buy the install kit which is @1000 dollars. and that blower makes more then 55hp.BurningRubber said:Actually just found this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD...33741QQitemZ7968013385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
Thats not a bad price. It says its for 96-98's with PI heads, but I imagine it would work with a PI engine since it bolts to the PI heads... Maybe I read it wrong, im dead tired. Seems like a pretty complete kit if it would fit on a 99+ engine.
imblown-ru said:Or you could just buy the whole kit then sell the xcal for 330 and make yourself 200 bucks off of it.
Really….I’ll bet that all of the people you’ve talked to with negative things to say about this blower have never owned one. I’ve heard nothing but good things to say with regards to that kit from their actual owners. I know several guys running this blower on Thunderbirds and a couple of Mustangs and they love it. Sure, it's limited as far as horsepower capability is concerned, because of the lack of after cooler, but the Eaton series blowers are hands down the most durable and reliable units being built today. Not to mention most inexpensive to produce. The all aluminum intake won't crack like the stock plastic upper and its stealthy compact design snuggles right into the engine bay almost invisibly.imblown-ru said:ive never heard real good things about that s/c, and it doesnt look like it will fit 99 and ups. and it claims a 55hp gain over production levels. thats ****ty. im at 6 psi and put down over 344 hp with a plenum and midpipe.
Gearbanger 101 said:Really….I’ll bet that all of the people you’ve talked to with negative things to say about this blower have never owned one. I’ve heard nothing but good things to say with regards to that kit from their actual owners. I know several guys running this blower on Thunderbirds and a couple of Mustangs and they love it.
Sure, it's limited as far as horsepower capability is concerned but the Eaton series blowers are hands down the most durable and reliable units being built today.
Comparing it to a PI car with a Novi 1000 and bolt-ons isn't exactly fair either!?!
BurningRubber said:GearBanger... Thanks for putting some insight to that kit. Will it fit a 99+ though? I might look into it if it will, start putting aside a supercharger fund... AND I can knock off replacing the factory plastic manifold if I did that.
Im not looking for crazy power, I rather have a safe combo that makes decent power and save the engine and tranny a little than be balls out fast. 55 hp would be noticable no doubt though, but like said more on a PI with mods and whatnot.
Edit: Looks like the install kit is 1200 bucks... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD...cmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33741QQitemZ7917858872
holy crap... never mind.
And what was it that they weren't satisfied with besides what points I’ve already mentioned? If you’re going to make the statement to downplay the unit, that's fair enough, but at least back it up with a valid reason to fortify your accusation. Otherwise, an open ended comment like that is just pissing in the wind and is nothing more than wasted bandwidth.imblown-ru said:1)Actually i have talked to quite a few people that owned this and werent completely satisfied with it.
That's kind of a funny statement coming from a guy who went with a Novi 1000 on his car when it too is very limited as far as making horsepower and torque is concerned. Why didn't you go with the Novi 2000....or an S-Trim? Both blowers have the potential to make much more power than the 1000 for a very small increase and in the case of the Vortech the same price and still remain emissions legal. People buy, what they can afford. If we were all out to buy the blower that could be upgraded to make the most amount of power later on down the road, we'd all be driving around the largest, most expensive bolt on blowers available.imblown-ru said:2)Why would he wanna buy something that you cant even expand on later due to the fact that it is limited in power.
imblown-ru said:3)This guy has a PI car, so i was telling him what to expect...we arent even talking about non-PI cars except for the ****ty HP claims for this blower on a PI car.
heres some #'s from a car with PI heads:imblown-ru said:1)Actually i have talked to quite a few people that owned this and werent completely satisfied with it.
2)Why would he wanna buy something that you cant even expand on later due to the fact that it is limited in power.
3)This guy has a PI car, so i was telling him what to expect...we arent even talking about non-PI cars except for the ****ty HP claims for this blower on a PI car.
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