Cobra Brake Question

bad68coupe · Jul 22, 2006

I am looking into a 13" Cobra Brake conversion for a 96-04 GT or V6 on Mustangtunning.com. I am wondering if i can bolt those spindles up to my original 68 control arms. Thanks

THX 138 · Jul 22, 2006

its been done a few different ways. Easiest, I think, is using your stock '68 spindles, drum brake hubs and put the 2003 brakes on the hub, and then get an adapter braket to mount the caliper.

bad68coupe · Jul 22, 2006

do you know where i could purchase that adapter?
Also, what about dust shields?

68FBJJZ109 · Jul 23, 2006

Mustang steve sells a bracket to mount the cobra brakes.

http://www.mustangsteve.com/cobrabrakes.html

I am also trying to sell that kit in the classifieds.

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

68FBJJZ109 said:
Mustang steve sells a bracket to mount the cobra brakes.

http://www.mustangsteve.com/cobrabrakes.html

I am also trying to sell that kit in the classifieds.

Is there any other way to set this up, because i don't feel like paying $320 for caliper brackets, are there any different spindles that i can use such as the 96-04 spindles. can i use those? would they affect ride height?

blascrw · Jul 23, 2006

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I have not found any significantly cheaper...

If you compare this to any other kit by SSBC or others it is cheaper...

Maybe the Wilwood comes in about the same...

I do not know of any other way to do it...

Brakes is one area I won't skimp on...I will tryto save money, but I wont skimp...

once you have been running down the road and can't stop...I promise you will never ever want that feeling again! At that point a brake kit is worth whatever amount of money you can imagine!

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

blascrw said:
I have not found any significantly cheaper...

If you compare this to any other kit by SSBC or others it is cheaper...

Maybe the Wilwood comes in about the same...

I do not know of any other way to do it...

Brakes is one area I won't skimp on...I will tryto save money, but I wont skimp...

once you have been running down the road and can't stop...I promise you will never ever want that feeling again! At that point a brake kit is worth whatever amount of money you can imagine!

I am not trying to skimp so much i am just trying to be resourceful, all i need to do is find the caliper mounting brackets. or find another spindle that will work.

THX 138 · Jul 23, 2006

bad68coupe said:
Is there any other way to set this up, because i don't feel like paying $320 for caliper brackets, are there any different spindles that i can use such as the 96-04 spindles. can i use those? would they affect ride height?

find a local college with a CNC and an engineering program or a Jr college with a CNC program (but be more careful as they don't know **** about strength of materials). They can make those things for school senior project and you get free bracket on the side. I was making all kinds of things when I was on the CNC last year.

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

THX 138 said:
find a local college with a CNC and an engineering program or a Jr college with a CNC program (but be more careful as they don't know **** about strength of materials). They can make those things for school senior project and you get free bracket on the side. I was making all kinds of things when I was on the CNC last year.

Great advice thank you very much, but where would i get that big chunk of metal, and what kind of metal would you recomend using.

blascrw · Jul 23, 2006

source

If you find a local college that has a cnc program they should easily be able to source the material.

I do not think you will save much if any money, and definately will not save you time.

Good luck! you need to find a student or instructor that is interested enough to do it. Alot of calculations...I recommend billet structural Aluminum. That is what MustangSteve and some other use.

Let us know how it turns out. MustangSteve's brackets are only 275.00

http://members4.boardhost.com/MustangSteveads/msg/1151031845.html

Later...keep us posted.

THX 138 · Jul 23, 2006

bad68coupe said:
Great advice thank you very much, but where would i get that big chunk of metal, and what kind of metal would you recomend using.

This type of thing is more suited to a Mechancial Engineer since they take machine design. I'm a Manufacturing Engineer so I can make things no problem but I wouldn't be all that comfortable designing it (although I could). The design aspect in my field would be desigining how to produce it and being most effiecient in that aspect.
Our school was well stocked with alumium(but not steel for some odd reason) You can go to a local industrial supply warehouse and buy a block of the right heat treatment (which can get pricey) or have the school temper it to what is necessary. Or to keep it simple, the bracket could be done in steel which would be heavier but then its such overkill in strength, you wouldn't have to worry about the lack of engineering if you get it done yourself at a machine shop.

THX 138 · Jul 23, 2006

if you really wana get crazy they could even do billet calipers like you see for $5000+ but I'd look for a grad student to do that Seniors are too overworked for something like that.

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

what i was thinking about doing was buying the mounting brackets and then copying down all the measurements, so that the college student wouldn't need to make them himself. Overall how much do you think it would cost to do the mounting brackets through a college student.

THX 138 · Jul 23, 2006

bad68coupe said:
what i was thinking about doing was buying the mounting brackets and then copying down all the measurements, so that the college student wouldn't need to make them himself. Overall how much do you think it would cost to do the mounting brackets through a college student.

$50 maybe. Depends how much they know how to do. I did a job cutting inconel (its like titanium) for a grad student that worked for Rocketdyne and he wanted to give me $100 but I wouldn't take it. If you buy the parts you can also take it to a machine shop and just tell them to duplicate it they have all the right calipers and things to get exact measurements (schools do too but they might not be as good with them or have them as accurate (I remember using 3 different calipers and having them all give different readings))

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

THX 138 said:
$50 maybe. Depends how much they know how to do. I did a job cutting inconel (its like titanium) for a grad student that worked for Rocketdyne and he wanted to give me $100 but I wouldn't take it. If you buy the parts you can also take it to a machine shop and just tell them to duplicate it they have all the right calipers and things to get exact measurements (schools do too but they might not be as good with them or have them as accurate (I remember using 3 different calipers and having them all give different readings))

Thanks for the help, how did you find your local machine shop?

blascrw · Jul 23, 2006

man...

you're in Richardson...there should be plenty of machine shops...

Talk to the guys at Dallas Mustang Parts see if they can recommend anyone...

http://www.ntmc.org/

check out your regional club...they meet in Irving...

You really should consider MustangSteve...he is not far from you...hell he is in carrolton, tx right up the street...a good guy...stands behind his product...always there for questions and tech support...

but back to the question...call Dallas Mustangs, go to a club meeting or post a question to them if they have a forum (I didn't look)...find a local drag strip...go one day (weekend) and talk to folks there see who they use...likely you will find 1 or 2 names that will come up over and over...guys at the track will likely know who will do custom work as opposed to hitting the yellow pages...

bad68coupe · Jul 23, 2006

blascrw said:
man...

you're in Richardson...there should be plenty of machine shops...

Talk to the guys at Dallas Mustang Parts see if they can recommend anyone...

http://www.ntmc.org/

check out your regional club...they meet in Irving...

You really should consider MustangSteve...he is not far from you...hell he is in carrolton, tx right up the street...a good guy...stands behind his product...always there for questions and tech support...

but back to the question...call Dallas Mustangs, go to a club meeting or post a question to them if they have a forum (I didn't look)...find a local drag strip...go one day (weekend) and talk to folks there see who they use...likely you will find 1 or 2 names that will come up over and over...guys at the track will likely know who will do custom work as opposed to hitting the yellow pages...

Ya i have been to Dallas Mustang before but i didn't think about using them before, great advice really appreciate it.

blascrw · Jul 23, 2006

dallas mustang

Well I do not think they do any machine work, but they should be able to point you in the right direction.

ultrastang · Jul 23, 2006

bad68coupe said:
what i was thinking about doing was buying the mounting brackets and then copying down all the measurements, so that the college student wouldn't need to make them himself. Overall how much do you think it would cost to do the mounting brackets through a college student.

I'm not sure if I lost something in the translation or not (??) You first mentioned that you didn't want to buy the brackets, but then you say you want to buy the brackets and then copy all the measurements (??). If you bought the needed adapter brackets, why would the measurements need to be copied and then reproduced by a machine shop?

Producing your own original design is perfectly acceptable, but copying someone else's work, that they put their time and money into development and the production of the component is nothing more than piracy, which is nothing more than stealing.

I hope I just misread your statement in what you were actually saying.

THX 138 · Jul 23, 2006

bad68coupe said:
Thanks for the help, how did you find your local machine shop?

My dad and uncle have one. And now that I'm done with school my dad's going to retire and I get his spot You can find them online or yellow pages or just stopping in at local light industrial areas and asking around. We get people walking in or calling and asking to get work done all the time.

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