Coolant Hoses

1992 2.3LX · May 14, 2004

Well I want to change my coolant hoses, because they are starting to get brittle at the connections.

I know the two large ones are called radiator hoses. but what are the two smaller ones that run from the water pump to the passenger side of the firewall called? Do all of these come in one large package or need to be purchased individually? What am i looking at price wise here?

bhuff30 · May 14, 2004

Those are the heater hoses. They are sold individually, and you may find that the parts store does not sell the correctly bent hose. You may end up buying a strieght hose, and forcing it to fit.
Also, you should have a small hose going to the intake from the heater hoses. You may want to replace this now as well.

Lex · May 14, 2004

Just a quick note if you have to force a straight hose. I know this may sound patronizing but make sure you don't crimp the hose. It seems pretty much common sense but I seen a buddy of mine pull into my garage and antifreeze was poring out. What happen was he magivered a hose which had a crink and it crack due to the pressure and heat. Basically is cuts off the flow which can lead to No heat and overheating engine and the stress part (where you force it to bend) can crack. I know it sounds obvious but it happens. I know Canadine Tire sell heater hoses, so I'm sure any store thats like CT will sell them.

Pro-Hawk · May 14, 2004

P.S.

If you choose to replace the heater hoses try to be careful removeing and replaceing them at the heater core ( where they plug into the fire wall). The last thing you want is a leak from the heater core. My best advice is to use a boz cutter to cut them off the heater hose. Just cut down the center of the hose and peal it like a banana Once this is down just slide it off and like Buff said you probly will have to use a straight hose which probly will mold to you car over time anyways.

kiddiccarus · May 14, 2004

If you have A/C dont screw with the heater core hook ups by the firewall. Like Pro-Hawk said be very gentle because messing that Heatercore up is a big costly mistake.

SpectralSamurai · May 14, 2004

What about the coolant hoses for the 2.3 turbo? those are a little different and have various metal tubing bits with them as well for the water coolant aspect of the turbocharger, so is one SOL and forced to fabricate stuff, or does anyone sell those? Hmm, maybe go to parts store and see if they have those for Thunderbird TC? Doubt most of them would even know what a Merkur is.

Pro-Hawk · May 15, 2004

SpectralSamurai said:
What about the coolant hoses for the 2.3 turbo? those are a little different and have various metal tubing bits with them as well for the water coolant aspect of the turbocharger, so is one SOL and forced to fabricate stuff, or does anyone sell those? Hmm, maybe go to parts store and see if they have those for Thunderbird TC? Doubt most of them would even know what a Merkur is.

When removing my turbo I found that one of those rubber lines was leaking so I replaced it. I did like I said about sliceing the line as not to be pulling on the heater core. Once I pealed the rubber hose off I took it down to my parts dealer and they had them in stock for a few bux. Now my turbo is not water cooled but I'm sure you could still buy those rubber lines or make some pretty easy.

SpectralSamurai · May 15, 2004

That works, I had planned on it. I just need to figure out how to get that bulbous thing on the end of the pipe so the hose stays on. Oh, what rating should the hoses have, any specific temperature or material?

ka0tyk · May 15, 2004

the heater core costs $35 from 50resto.com... wtf is all this "ITS EXPENSIVE TO FIX" stuff? It just takes about 4 hours to take the dashboard completely off and replace the heatercore... but it isnt costly... my spark plugs cost more than my heater core did. HEH.

kiddiccarus · May 15, 2004

who said EXPENSIVE I said costly. I would say an extra 4 hours for the best time is costly. Especially if you can avoid it. I have a bran new heater core in my garage ready to go in as soon as I can spare the EXTRA 4 hours to do it. Time is costly, especially when you can avoid doing something that you messed up in the first place.

Pro-Hawk · May 15, 2004

kiddiccarus said:
who said EXPENSIVE I said costly. I would say an extra 4 hours for the best time is costly. Especially if you can avoid it. I have a bran new heater core in my garage ready to go in as soon as I can spare the EXTRA 4 hours to do it. Time is costly, especially when you can avoid doing something that you messed up in the first place.

4 hours well crap next time mine goes out I will get you guys to replace it It took longer than that for my heater core. I called Ford up to see what they had down to change my core and it was 750.00 bux and 10 hours. So as you can tell it was way better to do it my self Now it can get expensive also...I had to disconnect my A/C lines which cost me 75.00 in R12 to recharge the system since I didn't have a chatch can. It also cost me 50.00 to vaccum down the system to check for leaks. NO I want use R 134a unless I have to. It doesn't always work worth a flip on older systems. I simply put that he/she would be wise to avoid damaging the core since its a big hassel to mess with and I would also call is costly to replace due to the amount of time needed to do the work.

kiddiccarus · May 15, 2004

75 (r12)+50(vaccum)+35(for the part) HMMMMMMMMMM Im not mathamatician but that is 160 plus 4 to 10 hours to do the change and lets not forget anything unforseen because of any type of breakage = 1 COSTLY MISTAKE. This Does now that I think of it borderline on getting expensive for something that you messed up in the first place by not being careful in the engine compartment. I think that 1992 2.3 LX will be fine if he follows what others have told him on cutting the hose and peeling it back. Pro_Hawk I too will save that 700+ from ford to do it and place that money into the engine Have a beer before you begin it.

bhuff30 · May 15, 2004

if you actaully have to take appart your AC lines, then you should just pay someone else who doesn't have to break the lines to do the work.

Pro-Hawk · May 15, 2004

bhuff30 said:
if you actaully have to take appart your AC lines, then you should just pay someone else who doesn't have to break the lines to do the work.

umm I payed like Kid said around 170.00 bux where Ford wanted 750.00 and a off brand machanic wanted 600.00. I think I still saved by doing it my self, my only hang up was getting a guy to sell me R12 with out a lic Like I would set back and huff that crap

kiddiccarus · May 15, 2004

I dont even take them apart, just use 2 pieces of cardboard sandwich the Heater Core and slide it in there. Slowly.

And in Review on TF I see that I should have known when I searched your site for the Roller Cam Pic.

bhuff30 · May 15, 2004

Pro-Hawk said:
my only hang up was getting a guy to sell me R12 with out a lic Like I would set back and huff that crap

Are you kidding? You need a liscense because that stuff destroys ozone in the upper atmoshpere. The newer freon, like 134A does not have the same effect (no CFC's).

SpectralSamurai · May 15, 2004

bhuff30 said:
Are you kidding? You need a liscense because that stuff destroys ozone in the upper atmoshpere. The newer freon, like 134A does not have the same effect (no CFC's).

Actually it does, R-134a is an HCFC, it still has CFCs but in a more stable form. Only HFCs (Puron, and other brand names, basically R-402) lack CFCs. However a license is still required despite the fact that it has zero ozone depletion potential. HCFCs still have ozone depletion potential, just not as much as any given CFC.

Pro-Hawk · May 16, 2004

bhuff30 said:
Are you kidding? You need a liscense because that stuff destroys ozone in the upper atmoshpere. The newer freon, like 134A does not have the same effect (no CFC's).

Umm can you prove either one does and don't hurt the ozone?

We Indians have a saying: "We borrow this land from our childeran." If you really want to save the world stop worring about dumb political crap like CFCs and go for the real problems. The biggest and fastest way to save our world is not cure the simptom but the cause...just park your car They have had eletric cars for years and have recently in Europe built a car that runs off water. Crap the Bi product of it is Oxygen Also cut back on styrofome products which are made from CFCs last I heard.

bhuff30 · May 16, 2004

Pro-Hawk said:
Umm can you prove either one does and don't hurt the ozone?

We Indians have a saying: "We borrow this land from our childeran." If you really want to save the world stop worring about dumb political crap like CFCs and go for the real problems. The biggest and fastest way to save our world is not cure the simptom but the cause...just park your car They have had eletric cars for years and have recently in Europe built a car that runs off water. Crap the Bi product of it is Oxygen Also cut back on styrofome products which are made from CFCs last I heard.

Now I am not a big enviromentalist or anything. I don't run cats, I eat beans, and I don't beleive in global warming, but I do know for a fact that freon is the biggest reason for the hole in the ozone layer. It is a fact that these CFC's migrate up to the upper levels of the atmoshpere and create O2 out of O3 (ozone). The chain reaction happens many many times per molecule of CFC, so each little bit of CFC destroys lots of Ozone.
Do you know what ozone it good for in the upper atmoshpere? It keeps you from getting bombarded with solar radiation, and giving you skin or eye cancer.

Pro-Hawk · May 16, 2004

bhuff30 said:
Now I am not a big enviromentalist or anything. I don't run cats, I eat beans, and I don't beleive in global warming, but I do know for a fact that freon is the biggest reason for the hole in the ozone layer. It is a fact that these CFC's migrate up to the upper levels of the atmoshpere and create O2 out of O3 (ozone). The chain reaction happens many many times per molecule of CFC, so each little bit of CFC destroys lots of Ozone.
Do you know what ozone it good for in the upper atmoshpere? It keeps you from getting bombarded with solar radiation, and giving you skin or eye cancer.

Thats a really nice theroy you got there. I think its cool how this supposed hole is above Antartica...its those damn farting pinguins I'm telling ya Heck I think a valcano hurts the ozone layer more than all the CFCs in the world combined would do to it. Crap on top of that there is plants still making R12 about 350 miles south west from me and you know what? Theres nothing we can do about it.

P.s its hard to believe in the depletion of the ozone layer and not believe in global warming

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